On Sunday, Jan 18th 2009 at 01:38 -0000, quoth Tim: =>On Sat, 2009-01-17 at 22:25 -0500, Steven W. Orr wrote: =>> Is everyone also coming up in offline mode? Yes, my eth0 (and my eth1) =>> and not under NetworkManager, they are just started by good old =>> network. => =>And have you stopped the NetworkManager service? If not, it could be =>saying that you're offline because *it* hasn't made a connection. =>Regardless of any other connections that are on. I have *not* stopped NetworkManager but I will if you can tell me that's the right thing to do. If I run system-config-network, I can see that eth0 and eth1 are *not* controlled by NW. But it only shows me those two interfaces. Am I confident that lo0 is not controlled by MW? =>> If my eth0 and eth1 were to be started by NW, would that have caused =>> me to not see this problem? => =>That would be right. => -- Time flies like the wind. Fruit flies like a banana. Stranger things have .0. happened but none stranger than this. Does your driver's license say Organ ..0 Donor?Black holes are where God divided by zero. Listen to me! We are all- 000 individuals! What if this weren't a hypothetical question? steveo at syslang.net -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@xxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines