On Sun, 2008-11-30 at 14:50 +0100, Thorsten Leemhuis wrote: > On 29.11.2008 19:08, Christopher A. Williams wrote: > > On Sat, 2008-11-29 at 18:11 +0100, Thorsten Leemhuis wrote: > >> On 29.11.2008 17:52, Christopher A. Williams wrote: > >>> On Sat, 2008-11-29 at 13:53 +0100, Thorsten Leemhuis wrote: > >>>> On 29.11.2008 00:16, Christopher A. Williams wrote: > > <snip...> > >>> Perhaps it would also help if this issue was actually communicated > >>> someplace conspicuous on the RPMFusion site. Not everyone looking at > >>> RPMFusion will pick up a small paragraph at the end of a rather long > >>> post in fedora-announce. > >> > > >>> I'm looking at RPMFusion.org right now, and there's absolutely nothing > >>> there about this. But there is something in the FAQ section about why > >>> people _should_ install the RPMFusion nVidia and ATI drivers, and that > >>> in turn provides a link to the "RPMFusionSwitcher" page, which gives > >>> complete instructions on how to (allegedly for ATI) do it. > >>> [...] > >> Fully agreed. But that needs volunteers and people that actually do > >> that. most RPM Fusion contributors are already overloaded. Would you > >> want to help? > > > > RPMFusion Wiki Account / Profile and Bugzilla account created > > successfully. > > Welcome! > > > Glad to help where I am able. Let me know... > > Well, it's a bit like it's often in the Open-Source-World afaics: Simply > set yourself a goal and work towards it. Don't be shy and don't fear to > much that you might step on somebodies toes as long as your work is an > overall improvement. > > Maybe you could actually give the wiki some love to fix the points you > raised earlier in this discussion? I for one would fine something like > this really great for our wiki: > > - a page that people can watch/subscribe to to get a up2date status of > what happening in regrards to the graphics drivers > > - a page that descries the differences between the different nvidia > driver series > > - maybe merge http://rpmfusion.org/RPMFusionSwitcher and > https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-test-list/2006-February/msg01565.html > and http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Xorg/3rdPartyVideoDrivers ; explain on > it why we use the xorg.conf hack with the ExtensionDir and the > ld.conf.d-hack to point to let apps use the libGL.so.1 from nvidia > > - explain the dangers of attconfig, nvidia-xconfig and other tools until > a real solution is found (see > https://bugzilla.rpmfusion.org/show_bug.cgi?id=197 > https://bugzilla.rpmfusion.org/show_bug.cgi?id=204 ) > > - a "how to debug problems with the graphics driver packages from RPM > Fusion". E.g. check if kmod is loaded, check dmesg for messages from > module, check Xorg.0.log, check if the extension path is set in > xorg.conf, glxinfo in general, LIBGL_DEBUG=verbose glxinfo, ldd > /usr/bin/glxinfo; games with hardcoded rpath might not work -- things > like that > > There are likely other things that I forgot right here, but maybe that > gives you some ideas/impressions (and if you don't understand some of > the things I said simply ignore them or ask for advice). Steward and > Nicolas (CCed) can likely help and answer questions if needed as well -- > those two take care of the graphic driver packages in RPM Fusion. OK - Sounds like a good starting plan. I'm on the road this week kicking off a new client engagement. That has me pretty swamped at the moment, but I will start looking at this more in-depth as I get some spare cycles this week. Cheers, Chris -- Christopher A. Williams <chriswfedora@xxxxxxxxxx> -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@xxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines