On Saturday 29 November 2008, Nigel Henry wrote: >On Saturday 29 November 2008 17:35, Gene Heskett wrote: >> On Saturday 29 November 2008, Nigel Henry wrote: >> >On Saturday 29 November 2008 06:46, Gene Heskett wrote: >> >> Greetings; >> >> >> >> Up2date reinstall of the latest FU8 respin. >> >> >> >> The various audio devices found by an lspci -vv on this mobo are: >> >> ====== >> >> 00:06.1 Audio device: nVidia Corporation MCP55 High Definition Audio >> >> (rev a2) Subsystem: ASUSTeK Computer Inc. Unknown device 81f6 >> >> Kernel driver in use: HDA Intel >> >> Kernel modules: snd-hda-intel >> >> ====== >> >> 01:07.0 Multimedia audio controller: Creative Labs SB0400 Audigy2 Value >> >> Subsystem: Creative Labs Unknown device 1001 >> >> Kernel driver in use: EMU10K1_Audigy >> >> Kernel modules: snd-emu10k1 >> >> ======= >> >> 03:00.1 Audio device: ATI Technologies Inc Unknown device aa10 >> >> Subsystem: Diamond Multimedia Systems Unknown device aa10 >> >> >> >> Kernel driver in use: HDA Intel >> >> Kernel modules: snd-hda-intel >> >> ======= >> >> >> >> And there is also a pcHDTV-3000 which has a connexant audio but its >> >> obviously a mic level output, and since tvtime doesn't work on the >> >> video card associated with the last device listed above, the point is >> >> moot till it does work. >> >> >> >> The first device above I have not been able to get a peep out of, so >> >> I've made the second one, the Audigy2, the default. And I have NDI >> >> where to plug anything that looks like audio into that ATI based >> >> HD-2400-Pro video card, but lspci says its there. >> >> >> >> Testing the sound for the audigy2 in system-config-soundcard works, but >> >> places like utube are silent. As is cnn et all since the last reboot. >> >> >> >> 2 questions: >> >> >> >> do we have a 'vu meter' that can be switched to monitor the various >> >> audio inputs? >> >> >> >> And when I had to reinstall, I see that pulseaudio was installed, and a >> >> now frozen 'lsof|grep audio' returns this, but has not returned a >> >> prompt. [root@coyote cards]# lsof |grep audio >> >> pulseaudi 3473 root txt REG 8,3 57972 >> >> 53801556 /usr/bin/pulseaudio >> >> artsd 3528 root mem REG 8,3 96380 >> >> 53795593 /usr/lib/libaudio.so.2.4 >> >> artsd 3528 root mem REG 8,3 171580 >> >> 5603705 /usr/lib/libaudiofile.so.0.0.2 >> >> >> >> Is this yet another case where I need to remove as much PA as I can in >> >> order to get working sound again, or is there a configurator for this >> >> PITA that might be able to fix this? The silence here is deafening. >> >> >> >> Thanks. >> >> >> >> -- >> >> Cheers, Gene >> > >> >Hi there Gene. >> > >> >I think I'd disable Pulseaudio temporarily, and you can do that by just >> >removing the package, alsa-plugins-pulseaudio. >> >> Now done, but not done an x restart yet. Now I have, and I can now hear >> cnn.com's video's. > >Well that's one problem resolved. Any idea which soundcard it is playing >through? Probably explained below, the Audigy2 is where most of my cables are plugged into. >> >If your using KDE, removing >> >that package will also remove the kde-settings-pulseaudio package. You >> > can always reinstall them later, but IIRC Pulseaudio has problems with >> > multiple cards, but I may be wrong there. >> >> I believe you are correct at this point. >> >> >Can you post the output from a few commands, as below. >> > >> >cat /proc/asound/cards >> >> 0 [Audigy2 ]: Audigy2 - Audigy 2 Value [SB0400] >> Audigy 2 Value [SB0400] (rev.0, serial:0x10011102) >> at 0xac00, irq 17 >> 1 [NVidia ]: HDA-Intel - HDA NVidia >> HDA NVidia at 0xfe024000 irq 21 >> 2 [HDMI ]: HDA-Intel - HDA ATI HDMI >> HDA ATI HDMI at 0xfddfc000 irq 16 >> >> >cat /proc/asound/version >> >> Advanced Linux Sound Architecture Driver Version 1.0.18rc3. > >F8 comes with alsa driver 1.0.16, and as you have 1.0.18rc3, you obviously >have no problems in upgrading the alsa driver. It may be worth upgrading to >the latest snapshot of the alsa driver. Link below. >http://ftp.kernel.org/pub/linux/kernel/people/tiwai/snapshot/ > >> >grep ^Codec /proc/asound/card?/codec* >> >> /proc/asound/card1/codec#0:Codec: Analog Devices AD1988B > >The codec above is for the onboard soundcard > >> /proc/asound/card2/codec#0:Codec: ATI ATI R6xx HDMI > >The one above appears to be something to do with a sound component on the >onboard graphics card, that also uses snd-hda-intel, and is to do with sound >on HDMI. Video isn't onboard, its a PCI-e card, a Diamond HD-2400-Pro, ATI chopset NV610. [...] > >Having only one soundcard (the onboard hda intel one), no doubt explains why > I don't have the Multiselector click bar. I'll have to get hold of a cheap > soundcard to add as a second card to this machine, and see if the >Multiselector click bar turns up in Kmix. If nothing else it may be usefull >in helping folks out that have more than one soundcard like you have. > >> >but >> >you can get to the controls for the individual cards (presuming they all >> > show up in /proc/asound/cards), by opening alsamixer on the CLI, as >> > below. >> > >> >alsamixer -D hw:0 (that's for card0) >> >> Gets me the audigy2's controls >> >> >alsamixer -D hw:1 (for card1, and so on) >> >> Gets me the HDA-Nvidia controls >> and: >> alsamixer -D hw:2 >> Gets me the single control for the >> Card: HDA ATI HDMI >> Chip: ATI ATI R6xx HDMI >> >> >> I am interested in the intel stuff only if it can do everything the >> Audigy2 can. If that's the case, I'll remove it from the machine. > >The intel card isn't going to do what the audigy 2 one can. The audigy2 >(emu10k1) is capable of dealing with multiple audio streams, although Alsa's >Dmix works around some of these problems so that you can play more than one >app at the same time on non audigy (emu10k1) cards. > >A while back I remember you saying that you were using skype with the > onboard card, and the audigy card for other audio apps, and it was working > fine. This I assume was on another PC. I may be wrong, but don't think the > hda intel card on it's own is going to do this. I gave up on skype, the lags in transmission made it difficult to actually carry on a two way conversation. It has IIRC been turned into a fee service too. >> My present /etc/modprobe.conf: >> ======== >> alias eth0 forcedeth >> alias scsi_hostadapter libata >> alias scsi_hostadapter1 pata_amd >> alias scsi_hostadapter2 sata_nv >> alias scsi_hostadapter3 pata_jmicron >> alias scsi_hostadapter4 ahci >> options snd cards_limit=8 >> alias snd-card-0 snd-emu10k1 >> options snd-emu10k1 index=0 >> alias snd-card-1 snd-hda-intel >> options snd-hda-intel index=1 >> alias snd-card-2 snd-hda-intel >> options snd-hda-intel index=2 >> alias snd-card-7 snd-usb-audio >> options snd-usb-audio index=7 >> ========= >> That is what re-arranges the card order to make the Audigy2 the default in >> previous incarnation of F8. >> >> >All the best. >> > >> >Nigel. >> >> Thanks Nigel, a bunch. > >The question is. Can you now get access to both cards, so that you can > select one or the other when using an audio app. I doubt it since most apps want Hw:0 and have no means of selecting another. Skype was the singular exception to that that I have found. TBT, I didn't look that hard for others either. Thanks Nigel. -- Cheers, Gene "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order." -Ed Howdershelt (Author) To see a need and wait to be asked, is to already refuse. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@xxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines