On Sun, 2008-10-12 at 20:49 -0400, Bill Davidsen wrote: > Rahul Sundaram wrote: > > Aaron Konstam wrote: > >> On Sat, 2008-10-04 at 01:57 +0530, Rahul Sundaram wrote: > >>> Aaron Konstam wrote: > >>>> OK, installing those extra rpms make totem work. But that leaves us > >>>> with > >>>> two questions: > >>>> 1. Why did the displaying of the videos work until yesterday? > >>> I have no idea. > >> I have no idea either. But something is wrong with the uopdates it seems > >> to me. > > > > If you figure out specifics, then you can file bug reports. > > > >> All of that would be fine if you did not tell me to install rpms > >> supplied by Fedora to make totem work. > > > > It is not necessary for Totem to "work". Ogg for example works just fine > > without these additional packages. > > > > I understand why you can not > >> supply propriety codecs but why can't the rpms you told me to install be > >> suppled by default. They are not propriety. > > > > There are two basic classes of software that Fedora excludes: > > > > 1) Non-free software > > 2) Free but other legal issues such as patents. > > > Playing worked before the upgrade, therefore I assume that the codecs were > previously installed (somewhere in his system). Then playing stopped working > after the upgrade. So those previously working codecs seem to have been disabled > if not actually removed. > > > The additional packages I told you about falls into the second class. > > > Do the policies of the nanny state require upgrades to disable working codecs? > Or were they just working in some way the cleanup script couldn't use? In other > words, was the reduced functionality deliberate to cover your ass, or was it > just collateral damage? I went back and looked . The codecs are still there. But another mystery is if Fedora excludes class 2) above how come their rpms are in the repository? -- ======================================================================= A writer is congenitally unable to tell the truth and that is why we call what he writes fiction. -- William Faulkner ======================================================================= Aaron Konstam telephone: (210) 656-0355 e-mail: akonstam@xxxxxxxxxxxxx -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@xxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines