I have been running linux since at least before rh5.0, and have built and maintained many machines (both personal and professional - including some fairly sophisticated networked machines) for a long time. But now I have hit two problems which have me stumped. The first is a set of problems with pulseaudio. On my favorite workstation, a 64-bit machine with a dual-core cpu, I have both a SB Audigy 2 (350) and sound on the mb 8-channel real-tek. Prior to f9, I have been running both for years without any problems. The Audigy has been driving a 5+1 speaker system while the other was used to pipe output from a speech synthesizer to a different set of speakers. Until f9 and pulseaudio this worked without a whimper. I have now spent about 2 weeks reading everything I could find about pulseaudio and am beginning to be convinced that either (a) the system is inherently not usable for my setup, or (b) someone hosed up the implementation used in f9. From reading the problems in bugzilla - especially the ones close as 'not a bug,' I have become convinced that my only alternatives are to go back down to f8 OR to remove all pulseaudio components from my system and figure out how to wing it from there. If anyone has a working pulseaudio configuration which successfully drives the Audigy 2 in 5+1 mode, I would love to see it. Even with that I could probably move the speech synthesizer apps to another box. The other item which has me puzzled and less than happy is kde4. It seems seriously "dumbed down" compared to kde3. Several configuration items are either absent or so well hidden that they might as well be. In particular, having the menu systems pinned (a la windoze) to a spot on a panel rather than being able to assign them to mouse clicks anywhere on the screen is a real drag. And then there is the inability to add apps to panel itself - a serious lack for my purposes. Either it was someone's intention to dumb down kde4 the way that gnome has been so that more technical users have to give up and go elsewhere OR a good deal of the "configurability" which was present in kde3 is simply not ready yet for kde4. (yes, I *have* edited my menus - that's not an issue.) I would simply remove kde4 and go back to kde3, but I have already tried that once, but it was not successful as (at least) a few other apps seem to depend on kde4's presence, so I had to reinstall it. On this issue, it's possible that I have missed something, and if so someone please clue me in (I have RTFM'ed AND RTFsourceCode + web searched so much that my eyes are beginning to rebel). Any suggestions on either of these two points would be VERY greatly appreciated. OTOH I'll probably wake up tomorrow with solutions to all of the above and will feel really stoopid for sending this email. Thanks, -- william w. austin waustin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx "life is just another phase i'm going through. this time, anyway ..." -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@xxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines