On Wed, 24 Sep 2008 15:03:44 +0000, I Beartooth wrote: > I'm running Firefox under F8 and F9 on five different machines, and it's > a pain on every one of them, albeit in slightly different ways; but the > differences differ, too. > > The first thing they have in common is that it takes forever to > launch -- when it does launch. The second is that it mostly doesn't. It > will try, and the little blue dots will circle for a while, and the > window list on the panel will show a mark for it -- for a while. > Sometimes one or another window will flash up and disappear, usually too > fast even to identify. [...] Until such time as I gird up my electronic loins for another lunge at the Cox Method, I've been cutting back and back -- and mostly having to launch Firefox from the CLI. After a while, I started removing whatever extension it seemed from the messages on the terminal to have been trying to deal with before any failure. Then a couple times I went from machine to machine, trying to remove such an extension from all four -- and absolutely could not get it to launch on one. So I went looking, with nautilus, through my .mozilla folder. I didn't find any method to do the job I wanted to that way, but I did stumble on something else, which looked relevant and seems to've helped. There are two things I've long made a practice of moving from machine to machine, either with scp or by sneakermail, whichever seemed easier at the time : FEBE, and my collection of desktop background pictures (aka wallpaper, I believe). I had noticed a new problem with the pix, but hadn't thought to check for it with FEBE : a lot of files a/o folders would show up in nautilus with a padlock emblem. Lo and behold, the extension folders, and some others, were littered all over with those blasted padlocks. I had also discovered that I could clear away the padlocks by right-clicking a parent folder, choosing Properties, going to the Permissions tab, and making changes. (Why should there *be* permissions trouble with a file or folder, belonging to user btth on one machine, burned to CD by that user, inserted into another machine, then dragged and dropped by the same user into some folder belonging to that user?? Is this yet another betise of SELinux?? It didn't use to happen.) Anyway, I applied the same method to the padlock-littered firefox folders in my user's .mozilla -- several times, from the firefox folder itself on down -- and the various installs of firefox on F8 and F9 did at least start launching better than before. Question, while I'm at it : is there any simple way for us subtechnoids, who can't read code, to find out which extensions overlap? And how to decide, of a given pair with an overlap, which to keep? Fwiw, I'm down to 25 or 26 extensions under F9 and 28 under F8 -- almost exactly the same 25 or 26, I believe -- still not counting ones grayed out, usually because they're Ffx3 only or Ffx2 only. Six or seven of those are defenses, and may be readily eliminable if/when I once gain competence with the Cox Method at http://www.melvilletheatre.com/articles/ squid-privoxy/index.html -- Beartooth Staffwright, PhD, Neo-Redneck Linux Convert Fedora 8 & 9; Alpine 2.00, Pan 0.132; Privoxy 3.0.6; Dillo 0.8.6, Galeon 2, Epiphany 2, Opera 9, Firefox 2 & 3 Remember I know precious little of what I am talking about. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@xxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines