I am not running KDE4.1 anymore as I reverted back to F8. However, it is interesting to not that the KDE team released KDE4.1.2 this morning and in their release, they say this: "no new features went into KDE 4.1.2, but some nice bug fixes instead. David Faure has fixed a long-standing and annoying performance issue when deleting files using KIO, so you can now accidentally delete your home directory 32 times faster For the more faint-hearted, it will also work well with other files. You can read about all the changes that went into Codename in the changelog which offers links to the comprehensive SVN log files. KDE 4.1.2 is a recommended upgrade for everybody running KDE 4. The next feature release of the KDE workspace and applications will be in January 2009 when 4.2.0 will be upon you" http://dot.kde.org/1223050704/ In other words, F10, when it ships in October, is going to have the same KDE functionality that F9 has now, ie it is missing a lot of commonly needed desktop functionality. An increase in KDE4 functionality won't occur until the KDE 4.2.0 release in January, if there isn't a schedule slip. Support for F8 is going to cease in December. I plan to continue to run F8 until KDE 4.2.1 is released. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@xxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines