On Wed, 24 Sep 2008 15:10:56 -0430, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: [...] > None of the things you complain about have happened to me in several > years of using Firefox (basically since version 1), so I'm inclined to > think it's something in your environment or add-ons. Oh good. That's what I wanted to hear : there is hope. > Have you tried it on a fresh user account with no add-ons, just to > check? No; good idea. I added a user; did su to the user, and invoked Ffx from the CLI; it came right up -- with all the lousy language cruft (even though I had just tried to rid it of that as root), but at least without extensions. Just before, as root, I had invoked it from a CLI, and gone after those languages -- only to find a "disable" button and *NO* uninstall button on each, even for root. In each case, it left a bunch of messages on the CLI, which look remarkably similar -- and failed to return my command line : ===== ===== ===== ===== [root@localhost ~]# GCJ PLUGIN: thread 0x92c1430: NP_GetMIMEDescription GCJ PLUGIN: thread 0x92c1430: NP_GetMIMEDescription return GCJ PLUGIN: thread 0x92c1430: NP_GetValue GCJ PLUGIN: thread 0x92c1430: NP_GetValue: returning plugin name. GCJ PLUGIN: thread 0x92c1430: NP_GetValue return GCJ PLUGIN: thread 0x92c1430: NP_GetValue GCJ PLUGIN: thread 0x92c1430: NP_GetValue: returning plugin description. GCJ PLUGIN: thread 0x92c1430: NP_GetValue return ===== ===== ===== ===== ===== ===== ===== ===== [btth@localhost ~]$ su - FxT Password: [FxT@localhost ~]$ firefox & [1] 20501 [FxT@localhost ~]$ GCJ PLUGIN: thread 0x8b0d430: NP_GetMIMEDescription GCJ PLUGIN: thread 0x8b0d430: NP_GetMIMEDescription return GCJ PLUGIN: thread 0x8b0d430: NP_GetValue GCJ PLUGIN: thread 0x8b0d430: NP_GetValue: returning plugin name. GCJ PLUGIN: thread 0x8b0d430: NP_GetValue return GCJ PLUGIN: thread 0x8b0d430: NP_GetValue GCJ PLUGIN: thread 0x8b0d430: NP_GetValue: returning plugin description. GCJ PLUGIN: thread 0x8b0d430: NP_GetValue return ===== ===== ===== ===== So: that's the latest. If, as I hope, the trouble is on my end, does anybody have an approach to finding it any less tedious than uninstalling and reinstalling every extension, one by one, on every machine?? Are there at least any to be particularly suspicious of? Extensions more likely than others not to play nice with Fedora, or with other supposedly compatible extensions? -- Beartooth Staffwright, PhD, Neo-Redneck Linux Convert Fedora 8 & 9; Alpine 1.10, Pan 0.132; Privoxy 3.0.6; Dillo 0.8.6, Galeon 2, Epiphany 2, Opera 9, Firefox 2 & 3 Remember I know precious little of what I am talking about. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@xxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines