I'm running Firefox under F8 and F9 on five different machines, and it's a pain on every one of them, albeit in slightly different ways; but the differences differ, too. The first thing they have in common is that it takes forever to launch -- when it does launch. The second is that it mostly doesn't. It will try, and the little blue dots will circle for a while, and the window list on the panel will show a mark for it -- for a while. Sometimes one or another window will flash up and disappear, usually too fast even to identify. Then it will either all go away, or I'll get a lasting window telling me it's already running but not responding. Sometimes after that Firefox will actually launch, sometimes not. If not, sometimes clicking the launcher again will bring it up; sometimes it comes up double, or even with two different sessions -- and shutting either will usually shut both. Other times it helps to do ps ax| grep firefox, find one or several pids with question marks, kill them, and start over. It is consistently worse on some machines than others -- but not, afaict, on F8 more than F9 or vice versa, nor with Ffx 2 more or less than the other. I try to keep it as nearly standardized as I can. The best way is to add FEBE to any new install of Firefox, and then copy in a FEBE folder by scp or sneakermail, and run a restore. But I have one machine (a Dell Poweredge SC 1420, formerly the server for a private list, and not yet fully wiped) which refuses adamantly to read media or to do scp; so there are hardly any extensions on its Ffx -- and it works better. Are there extensions that Fedora will allow but not get along with, or that don't get along with Fedora? Do I have too many? (The latest FEBE restore tab listed 79 items.) Or what? -- Beartooth Staffwright, PhD, Neo-Redneck Linux Convert Fedora 8 & 9; Alpine 1.10, Pan 0.132; Privoxy 3.0.6; Dillo 0.8.6, Galeon 2, Epiphany 2, Opera 9, Firefox 2 & 3 Remember I know precious little of what I am talking about. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@xxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines