On Sat, Sep 6, 2008 at 1:14 PM, Patrick O'Callaghan <pocallaghan@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > On Sat, 2008-09-06 at 15:14 -0500, Aaron Konstam wrote: >> On Sat, 2008-09-06 at 12:35 -0430, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: >> > On Sat, 2008-09-06 at 08:23 -0500, Aaron Konstam wrote: >> > > Look, we have been at this too long. >> > >> > Agreed. >> > >> > > switchdesk changes the >> > > file .Xclient-defaults but that file is not sourced on my machine. If >> > > you know how to get it sourced when you login I will be glad to learn >> > > something new. >> > >> > And I've been trying to explain that I don't use switchdesk because I >> > get the right result by editing /etc/sysconfig/desktop, which for some >> > reason isn't working for you. >> > >> > I suspect that if you find out why switchdesk doesn't work for you, you >> > will also find out why my method doesn't work for you. The answer may be >> > to do with your X setup, not with switchdesk or /etc/sysconfig/desktop. >> > >> > This is what is supposed to happen on F9 (note that this has changed a >> > bit since F8): >> > >> > Boot goes to state 5 >> > ... which runs /etc/event.d/prefdm >> > ... which runs /etc/X11/prefdm >> > ... which consults /etc/sysconfig.desktop if present, and sets the >> > desktop manager >> > ... and then executes it. >> > The desktop manager runs the login session >> > ... then runs X as a child >> > >> > You might want to look at /var/log/messages to see what is actually >> > happening. >> > >> > poc >> > >> You boot process stops to soon. Once you are in a login session we still >> have the question of what window manager is launched when you login. >> What do you think controls that? > > What do you think controls it? It's usually part of the X initialization > process, which itself is run via xinit or startkde or whatever. The > window manager is simply another X client. I say "usually" because you > can have X running with *no* window manager. It's not terribly useful > but it can happen when the wm crashes for some reason (in which case if > you have a terminal open you can just start it again without ending the > session.) > > poc > That is correct. In fact, you can launch X from the CLI and have it display a small xterm with nothing else in the desktop, but what's the use of that... that's why we have Window Managers like Gnome, KDE and the others mentioned earlier. I think the OP should really read the man pages: xinit for starters. ~af -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@xxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines