Re: Can't switch to KDE

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On Sat, 2008-09-06 at 08:26 -0430, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
> On Fri, 2008-09-05 at 16:35 -0500, Aaron Konstam wrote:
> > On Fri, 2008-09-05 at 15:07 -0430, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
> > > On Fri, 2008-09-05 at 09:39 -0500, Aaron Konstam wrote:
> > > > On Thu, 2008-09-04 at 18:46 -0430, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
> > > > > On Thu, 2008-09-04 at 15:47 -0500, Aaron Konstam wrote:
> > > > > > On Thu, 2008-09-04 at 14:22 -0430, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
> > > > > > > On Thu, 2008-09-04 at 20:35 +0200, Timothy Murphy wrote:
> > > > > > > > Can't one just edit /etc/sysconfig/desktop ,
> > > > > > > > or doesn't that work any more?
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > It does work and has been mentioned here several times in the past. Note
> > > > > > > that F9 doesn't seem to include the file by default so you have to
> > > > > > > create it, and of course know what to put in it. For KDE:
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > #!/bin/sh
> > > > > > > DESKTOP="KDE"
> > > > > > > DISPLAYMANAGER="KDE"
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > poc
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > That does not work on my machine.
> > > > > 
> > > > > What does "not work" mean? What exactly happens? Have you restarted X
> > > > > after makimg the above changes? It's not enough just to log out and in
> > > > > again since you want to change the display manager (not just the window
> > > > > manager). "init 3 && init 5" from a console should do the trick.
> > > > Not work means when I login I get GNOME not KDE.
> > > > > 
> > > > > > What do you think of .Xclient-default?
> > > > > 
> > > > > You mean .Xclients-default? It just seems to execute startkde on my
> > > > > system. That won't change the display manager either.
> > > > Actually running startkde does change the display manager.
> > > 
> > > According to
> > > http://docs.kde.org/stable/en/kdebase-runtime/userguide/kde-startup-sequence.html :
> > > 
> > >         "The KDE startup sequence starts with the startkde script. In
> > >         most cases this script gets called from the display manager
> > >         (kdm) once the user has been authenticated."
> > > 
> > > > Which is how
> > > > switchsession is supposed to work. You just want to change the display
> > > > manager for thew one user not the whole machine.
> > > 
> > > I think you're confused about what the display manager does. Note that
> > > you can also run KDE under gdm, the Gnome Display Manager.
> > > 
> > > > This is
> > > > why /etc/sysconfig/desktop is not a candidate for the job.
> > > 
> > > So how come it works for me and apparently many other people?
> > > 
> > > poc
> > > 
> > You are partially right. Reread message replacing display manager by
> > window manager. Sorry for the mistake.
> 
> OK, rereading it with substitution we get:
> 
>         "Actually running startkde does change the window manager ...
>         Which is how switchsession is supposed to work. You just want to
>         change the window manager for the one user not the whole
>         machine"
> 
> To be pedantic, switchdesk (not "switchsession") doesn't explicitly
> change the window manager, it changes the desktop (which usually will
> change the window manager implicitly). However that's immaterial. If you
> look at what it does -- it's a Shell script so you can read it -- it
> just sets up some initialization files for the next user session. In the
> case of KDE, the initialization file simply searches for startkde in a
> number of standard places. Since you say that startkde works for you
> when run from a terminal, I'm at a loss to understand why this doesn't
> just work unless it's a bug in startkde itself.
> 
> > But you are wrong that the
> > contents of /etc/sysconfig/desktop controls which window manager is
> > booted when you login. Which is what I wanted to do. That does not work
> > for anyone.
> 
> Doesn't work for anyone? I'm telling you (again) that it works for me,
> and I think it also works for other people. Perhaps you meant it doesn't
> work for *everyone*, which is why we're discussing this.
> 
> poc
> 
Look, we have been at this too long. switchdesk changes the
file .Xclient-defaults but that file is not sourced on my machine. If
you know how to get it sourced when you login I will be glad to learn
something new.
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