Re: Reasons behind defaulting atd and sendmail

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Michael Cronenworth wrote:
Are there any legitimate reasons why the "atd" and "sendmail" services are enabled by default? A "default" install is for a desktop and they are quite useless in that regard.

The fact that you don't use a service the way it was intended doesn't make it useless.

Sendmail only stores the logwatch output, which actually accumulates after a period of time because no normal desktop user reads the mail.

Pretty much every program with a unix heritage assumes that sendmail is available to deliver occasional status and warning messages.

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could possibly fill up a hard drive on a small drive, such as a eeePC 4gb system.

The point of using mail for these notifications is that it can easily be configured to deliver it where you want, instead of accumulating where no one looks at it.

I realize we all have terrabyte hard drives now and logwatch is only kilobytes in size, but it's still garbage. Don't get me wrong, I use logwatch mail on Fedora server installs, but for a desktop user... who never reads it...

Turn it off if you aren't going to read it - but a better approach is to configure sendmail to deliver it to a gmail account or a place where you will read it without having to go out of your way and where the space it consumes until you read it won't be a problem. I suppose it would be nicer if fedora had a 'fill-in-the-form' setup to configure sendmail to use a remote relay that needs smtp auth and to forward everything since those are common needs these days.

As for 'at' well... do *normal* Fedora users have any benefit from this starting up? I realize there is a gnome-schedule utility, but it is not installed by default.

I don't know what you think 'normal' users do, but most of the point of having a computer is that it can do things for you automatically.

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