On Thu, 2008-08-28 at 11:00 +0900, Joel Rees wrote: > On Aug 26, 2008, at 12:12 PM, Craig White wrote: > > > this may be useful (apparently you can't use fdisk on an Apple system) > > # parted -l > > Model: Maxtor 6Y080L0 (ide) > > Disk /dev/hda: 82.0GB > > Sector size (logical/physical): 512B/512B > > Partition Table: mac > > > > Number Start End Size File system Name Flags > > 1 512B 32.8kB 32.3kB Apple > > 2 32.8kB 1081kB 1049kB hfs untitled boot > > 3 1081kB 106MB 105MB ext3 untitled > > 4 106MB 641MB 535MB linux-swap swap swap > > 5 641MB 82.0GB 81.3GB ext3 untitled > > > > obviously the yaboot partition is #2 > > That's a 100G drive? ---- parted says that it's an 82G drive ---- > > OOo has a terrific set of tools for document creation...I think it > > puts > > Appleworks to shame. > > Different strokes for different folks. OOo feels clumsy to me. Feels > too much like MSOffice. ---- totally intentional - It allows people to leverage what they already know rather than scuffling through a completely different interface. ---- > That may be in part because I've been burned by MSOffice so many > times that even the slightest whiff of MS turns my stomach. > > But what I'm using that is indispensable to me right now is a little > feature where you can bury a spreadsheet in a "draw" document, show > small windows on the printable page, and use the sort function with > random keys to randomize the words in the printed list. Kind of a > slick way to make word bingo cards, among other things. And I'm doing > a lot of less program-like stuff with the drawing software, too. > > That SVG editor (inkscape?) that was in the news recently may help a > lot for when I need to do drawings. > > Thinking about this, I suppose I should be able to build something > similar with hidden worksheets in the MSOffice-centric way of > thinking. Maybe I'll try that with OOo sometime. (I do use it on > other, more powerful hardware. And I have to admit, I should not be > surprised if the AppleWorks version might turn out to be less > intuitive to my fellow teachers who might want to use the teaching > materials I'm creating than an MSExcel "workbook" or whatever that > would be called. Also, I've thought, several times, that I might be > able to get even better effects by programing a plugin for OOo, just > haven't had the time and luck to figure out how to get a handle on > that yet.) ---- you really should be using scribus - desktop publishing because you can put all sorts of different elements (text/graphics) anywhere on the page. ---- > I think you mean EFI, which is iNTEL's take on openfirmware? ---- indeed ---- > > you probably got the best I had to offer - I actually made a clean > > install of OS 9.1 that I then made into a dmg file with 'Disk Utility' > > so I could just dump a full OS 9 setup onto any computer running > > OSX so > > it would work in Classic Mode or reboot to OS 9 if I chose it in > > 'Startup Disk' (it's just under 300 mb). > > That might also work, but the games aren't the only things. An old > Metrowerks compiler/IDE, for example, easily consumes 1G, and I'm not > anxious to put that on an image file on this 300MHz iBook. Don't know > how much longer I'll need it, but I still need it for a little while. ---- the dmg file is a time saver meaning that I didn't have to struggle through creating an OS 9 setup once I had the image, I could mount the image and just copy over the 'System Folder', 'Applications (Mac OS 9)' folders and I was pretty much set. ---- > > Actually, there are a number of ways I can free up partitions, once I > get some old cruft cleared away in the dd-ed copy of the previous > boot partition, but that's really not on-topic here. > > I filed a bug report on the part of this where gparted won't make a > small enough partition on my disk and anaconda won't use the > partitions I can make -- bugzilla #460390 > > Thanks for trading ideas. > > Hopefully, I can either get the time to get openBSD set up with X11 > and the Gimp and OOo or I can find out enough to get it to boot > ofboot and yaboot from my Mac OS 9 partition in the next few months. > > Really want to see how heavy OOo is in Linux on this box. The > NeoOffice fork of OOo was too heavy on Mac OS X 10.2 with 192M of > RAM. If I want to try that again, or if I want to try the new OOo for > X11 on the Mac, I'll have to upgrade the iBook to 10.3, and I'm not > anxious to spend the money and time on that. I'd rather just get a > new notebook that can handle it OOo better under Linux. Some of these > webbooks look really nice, and especially handy for when I want to do > some work on the train. > > More rambling than useful information here, hopefully not too much > noise. ---- Neo-Office has been a performance pig on every installation I have seen - such a pig that it is unusable...period...at least OOo is usable but you are correct that on Mac OSX 10.2, there are few options. With only 192 mb RAM, I would probably investigate whether I could get XFCE running on ppc just to liven it up. good luck Craig -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@xxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/MailingListGuidelines