On Monday 25 August 2008, Timothy Murphy wrote: >Craig White wrote: >> clearly the people with problems with pulseaudio are in the minority or >> it would have been removed. > >Sadly, this is nonsense. > >How do the pulseaudio developers know what percentage of users >have problems with it? > An excellent question since there is NOT a visible means of lodging a complaint without first joining yet another %$#@& mailing list, something that since I am already on nearly 100 of and can't seem to efficiently manage even with kmail's excellent facilities, I refuse to do. These asshats who 'require' that little detail are in fact just hiding and hoping we will go away. Yeah, if they open it up, they will get spam too, but dammit, isn't that what spamassassin is for? If the redhat/fedora folks are serious about this utility packages development, they will include a choice of pulseaudio in the menu's used to catalog the complaints on bugzilla. But that would be too damned easy wouldn't it? To paraphrase and plagerise(sp) SWMBO, the present menu system sucks dead toads through soda straws. Invented at about the same time as papyrus maybe? But since they haven't, at least not the last time I looked, I have to conclude that Red Hat et all are not really serious about making it work 'as advertised' for all users. >As far as I know, Fedora has never tried to run any kind of poll >to find what problems users might have. Nor have they AFAWK, made any attempt to relay the condensed gist of the bitches back to the PA people. If there is not a comm channel, it will never get fixed, it really is that simple. >I regard the Fedora developers as a fairly benign dictatorship, >a bit like China. >You won't get run over by a tank if you disagree with them, >but you won't be listened to either. As we've noted, sometimes rather vociferously on this list. -- Cheers, Gene "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order." -Ed Howdershelt (Author) Life may have no meaning, or, even worse, it may have a meaning of which you disapprove. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@xxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list