Greetings; Why is it that every decent multimedia production tool always requires stuff to build its tarball that is not part of the fedora repositories? I have now failed for the second time to build a video editing application that is compatible with the camera I have, and the multimedia build tools available for fedora. Most recently, kino, which FWIW I had running flawlessly on FC2. 2 weeks ago I gave up building OpenMovieEditor for the same reason, its dependencies simply cannot be satisfied on an F8 system. Here is the exit stanza for a 'make' in the kino src tree, most recent release: In file included from dvtitler.cc:32: ../frame.h:51:35: error: libavcodec/avcodec.h: No such file or directory ../frame.h:52:37: error: libavformat/avformat.h: No such file or directory ../frame.h:54:35: error: libswscale/swscale.h: No such file or directory ../frame.h:111: error: ISO C++ forbids declaration of ‘AVCodecContext’ with no type ../frame.h:111: error: expected ‘;’ before ‘*’ token make[3]: *** [dvtitler.lo] Error 1 make[3]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/kino-1.3.1/src/dvtitler' make[2]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1 make[2]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/kino-1.3.1/src' make[1]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1 make[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/kino-1.3.1' make: *** [all] Error 2 Those files are similar to the failure of OpenMovieEditor, which if I could build, I might be able to use, but I still need kino to manage the video importation from my camera, which has a firewire port and handles video in real time, something that I don't believe OpenMovieEditor can manage. I've been with redhat/fedora for a bit over 10 years now for my main machine. When F8 support ends, I think that will be grounds for a divorce. I'm tired of the "keep the good stuff on the other side of the pond for legal reasons" BS that is endlessly repeated from Research Triangle Park. Why the hell should we be 2nd class citizens? -- Cheers, Gene "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order." -Ed Howdershelt (Author) The difference between a career and a job is about 20 hours a week. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@xxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list