Re: [Bulk] Re: [Bulk] Re: [Bulk] Re: Messed up my ISP/Networkmanager connection !?

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William Case wrote:
On re-boot the script messages still show,  -- "setting NetworkManger
waiting for network - failed".  Then, "httpd: could not reliably
determine the servers fully qualified domain name using 127.0.0.1 for
server name."

The little NetworkManager gui in my notification panel shows a red
warning with an x and says "No network connection".

Epiphany and FireFox, along with Evolution, start offline.  Putting all
three back online gets them all working.  Here is the strange thing.
Previously when I put Epiphany and Firefox back online as soon as I
started them again they went off line immediately.  This time they
stayed on.  I loaded several fresh pages and everything continued to
work.
Something else to look at...  What does your network routing look like?
Do you have a proper default route? If not, you won't be able to get beyond your local subnet.

/sin/route

I have posted the result of route -n earlier.  There is nothing
interesting there.

Sorry, I joined in late.  I didn't check earlier emails.

]$ route -n
Kernel IP routing table
Destination     Gateway         Genmask         Flags Metric Ref    Use
Iface
192.168.1.0     0.0.0.0         255.255.255.0   U     0      0        0
eth0
169.254.0.0     0.0.0.0         255.255.0.0     U     0      0        0
eth0
0.0.0.0         192.168.1.1     0.0.0.0         UG    0      0        0
eth0

Yeup, looks good.

>>> I just shut down and cold rebooted to be sure before sending this post.
Every thing is still as above.
Check your network routing tables. If you don't tell the networking how to get there, it doesn't know.

A new wrinkle I didn't report, but now Evolution is asking for IP
account passwords each time I start it.  It had stopped doing that in
Fedora 9.

Remember Kevin, I am getting ISP service.  Everything seems to be
boiling down to a NetworkManager problem.

Yeah. I'm trying to figure out what might be wrong based on your percieved inability to route properly.

I just went back and looked, you have a wired ethernet setup. Why are you using NetworkManager? Have you tried disabling NetworkManager and starting up the "network" service in its place? (Unless you are somehow married to using NetworkManager....) "sysconfig-config-network" can then be used to configure the ethernet card, even for DHCP from your router. (I gave up on using DHCP for my server though, its much better that it always have the *same* IP address in my network for obvious reasons. its the server!)

I use NetworkManager only on my F9 laptop, but my F8 server uses the "network" service.

When I have network routing problems, I often configure ethernet cards and their routing by hand in order to rule out other problems. I've been doing this for well over 10 years when I have problems. Though I can't remember that last time DHCP didn't work right on Fedora from my router.

I find traceroute and ping useful tools when tracking down network routing problems. They help point the finger at guilty parties. If you know where your routing is failing (and its your equipment), you can usually fix it.

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