Removing the splash= produces a pure text menu that the TV displays properly. Thank you, Mikkel. TV's, even modern flat screens, make lousy computer monitors. The basic purpose of this system is a DVR. Jeremy K added the splash to grub to improve it, and as an advertising vector. Side effect was my problem, which is fixable. As far as grub sucking, it was written for a purpose by somebody else. If you think it sucks, write something better. If you can't write, shut up, and go away. Excuse me, rude people make me rude. I am very good at being rude, you should try me in person. Bring a helmet, and some bandages. Carl -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@xxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list