Re: recent kernel upgrades damage mbr

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On Tuesday 17 June 2008, Mark Haney wrote:
>Maurizio Marini wrote:
>> I would advice any list member that it is in the wild a issue regarding
>> grub and mbr.
>>
>> I invite who has not yet done it, to save mbr on a secure place before any
>> kernel or grub related upgrade, dd is your friend.
>> In the meantime fedora experts and developers are at work (hopefully) to
>> investigate and solve this issue.
>> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=450143
>>
>> man adviced, man half saved
>>
>> 	-m
>
>While I'm certainly an advocate for 'better safe than sorry', I've never
>seen a problem with the MBR on a kernel upgrade or install.  Ever.  And
>I've been building kernels since mid '97 or so.

I'll agree with Mark here.  I rarely run the fedora kernel for much more time 
than it takes to go get the latest from kernel.org and build/install it & 
reboot. 2.6.26-rc6 running ATM for about 20 hours now, I was busy and therefore 
a day + slow.

>That said, this subject line is really misleading and should really be
>more about grub than kernels, since grub upgrade do affect the mbr and
>kernel upgrades (in my experience) don't.

I wouldn't call it misleading, this old fart isn't known to be that kind.

>I read this subject line and freaked since I had just updated one of my
>servers to the latest kernel and was rebooting as I read it.  Of course,
>it came up fine, so I did some research and wanted to clarify this post
>some.

Common sense says a kernel upgrade, unless the kernel is horribly broken, cannot 
possibly effect the mbr.

However, I have had, in the past 2 years of trying to use the nvidia binaries, 2 
separate instances of having the mbr of the boot drive wiped, so clean the last 
time that the mbr had only 1 non-zero byte in it, and both occurred as I was 
experiencing something in the display going bonkers which in turn forced a 
reset button reboot, it was frozen solid halfway through a screen switch.

Switching to an older ATI card about mid-February seems to have stopped that.  
Make of it what you will, but my suspicions will forever point at nvidia.

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