On Sat, 2008-06-14 at 22:14 -0400, Ric Moore wrote: > On Sat, 2008-06-14 at 12:00 -0430, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > > On Sat, 2008-06-14 at 09:05 -0700, Les wrote: > > > > [...] > > > > > And while I dislike the issues with text presentation that occur, I do > > > understand the history of it, and the issue of backward compatibility. > > > You might find it entertaining to look up some of the history of text > > > editors some time, and certainly informative. > > > > Well, I installed my first Unix system in 1975 so I do know something > > about that. And I clearly remember finding out about the Unix convention > > of a single-character end-of-line marker and think "thank God, at last > > someone has done this right". It's noteworthy that this was way before > > MS-DOS came along and screwed it up again. > > > > > [...] > > > > > Perhaps with your great > > > insight you might provide the Second Life, VRML, Croquet, Cobalt, WOW, > > > and others with valuable information on standardization? > > > > How did you get from "representing text on some device" to weak sarcasm > > about all that other stuff? Strawman arguments don't change one iota of > > what I'm saying, i.e. that plain text is plain text, and displaying is > > displaying. The context of this discussion is the conversion of a plain > > text file from one system to another, that's all. > > His point was, Poc, that a simple "avatar" cannot move between current > 3D systems today much like the end-of-line char debate that has raged > for over 30 years. (You forgot Wonderland, Les! That's the one I'm > betting the farm on.) > > Knowing Les, I think his point was that the rightness/wrongness debate > over the EOL char is as futile then as the avatar problem is now. The > situation sucks, but there it is. No one listens much to us anyway, so > we get to keep the pieces. <chuckles> Ric That part I do believe :-) poc -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@xxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list