Hi; FC9 fully updated, KDE4 [mick@localhost ~]$ su - Password: [root@localhost ~]# rpm -qa kaffeine* kaffeine-libs-0.8.6-4.fc9.i386 kaffeine-0.8.6-4.fc9.i386 When I right-click on the desktop kaffeine icon, and left click "remove this icon" - it goes away. When I reboot it comes back This is my only desktop icon, so it may not work with others. While running kaffeine: Pause stops the video, pause or play continues the video. Stop pauses the video instead of showing the football. Play restarts from the beginning. The stop button should not pause the video. It has updated since the FC9 install. You could click pause and then stop. Both buttons would stay down. Play would restart. Also the digital clock has no seconds, needed for eBay sniping. Mick M. Death before Decaf!!! -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@xxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list