Re: F9: The good and the bad

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--- lanas <lanas@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

> All,
> 
>   I've installed Fedora 9 and would like to share
> some notes about it.
> All in all I was a bit deceived by some of its
> aspects, be them from
> the system itself, KDE, or Konqueror.  I think that
> nevertheless I
> will perseverate and will not revert back to Fedora
> 8.
> 
>   This is a x86 install.  before doing the install,
> a backup of
> /home/[user] and /etc/ from F8 was made, kept as a
> reference.
> 
>   I do not want to draw a grim picture of Fedora 9. 
> I might end up
> keeping it after all, but I surely thought about
> reverting back to F8.
> This machine is used for work and it seems I keep
> being trapped into
> this idea of trying not the bleeding edge, not the
> alpha or beta, but
> the official release, thinking that it would end up
> with a wow! effect
> will keeping the functionality I had before,
> notwithstanding some
> small adaptation to some possible (few) new ways of
> doing things.
> 
>   It seems that time has not yet come. 
> Coincidently, I always had
> good experiences with even-numbered releases such as
> Fedora 6 and
> Fedora 8.  I still keep F6 at home with all the
> music-making apps
> since it works so well.  Too bad it's already
> outdated and there are
> no new updates for it.
> 
>   Maybe Fedora 10 will have a consistent wow! factor
> ?
> 
> The good things:
> 
>   + At least yum works !!!
>   + xine from livna installs fine and plays some
> video fine.
>   + using yum, claws-mail install fines and runs
> immediately, provided
>   that a previous .claws-mail was copied from F8 in
> the user
>   directory.
>   + The DVD gave no (DMA or otherwise) errors
> whereas for F8 I had to
>   install from a USB key.
> 
> The not-so-good things:
> 
>  * Add/Remove Software utility
>  - The Add/Remove software utility shows
> ´Downloading files´ endlessly
>    (internet connection is functional)
>  - Has no detailed feddback on what's going on
>  - Cannot do several tasks at once (waiting for
> other tasks to
>    complete) whereas kyum can.
>  Result: no software can be installed using this
> utility.
> 
>  Is this the utility that got a spotlight in F9 new
> features ?
> 
>   + At least yum works !!!
> 
>  * Konsole / video
>   - Konsole is no longer transparent whereas it was
> with F8
>   - Mouse rotary scroll button does not (worked with
> F8)
> 
>   Konsole reports that the graphic capabilities are
> not good enough to
>   support transparency whereas F8 had no problem
> with that (on same
>   computer)
> 
>   Video is:
> 
>   Intel Corporation 82945G/GZ Integrated Graphics
> Controller (rev 02)
> 
>   A quite slow glxgears reports:
> 
>   Failed to initialize TTM buffer manager.  Falling
> back to classic.
>   4790 frames in 5.0 seconds = 957.905 FPS
>   XIO:  fatal IO error 11 (Resource temporarily
> unavailable) on X server ":0.0"
>         after 19132 requests (6276 known processed)
> with 0 events remaining.
> 
>   Video is not so fast, perhaps slower than F8. 
> glxgears is not
>   right.  KDE looks nice, but is slow.
> 
>  * Missing apps ?
> 
>    - My favorite kyum is found by the yum installer
> but... kyum cannot
>    run because is misses kdesu.
> 
>     yum install kdesu
>     Parsing package install arguments
>     No package kdesu available.
>     Nothing to do     
> 
>   - same with kpdf
> 
> 
>  * KDE (category: Bummer)
>    - Add Widgets widget - how to make it go away ?
> 
>    - Multiple desktops - not easy to find where to
> add desktops.
>      Havent't found it yet. Bummer.
> 
>    - taskbar - not easy to find how to make it
> disappear
>      automatically. Havent't found it yet. Bummer.
> 
>    - auto mouse focus - not easy to find. Havent't
> found it
>      yet. Bummer.
> 
>   - KDE System Settings: Search is broken as far as
> it cannot return
>     anything for ´keyboard´ whereas previous F8 KDE
> reporte a list of
>     possibilities.  Is this an upgrade ?
> 
> 
>  * Fonts
> 
>    Although the DejaVu LGC fonts are installed:
> 
>    ls  /usr/share/fonts/dejavu/
>    [...]
>    DejaVuLGCSansMono-Oblique.ttf          
>    DejaVuLGCSansMono.ttf                  
>    [...]        
> 
>    It is not possible to use them as per the Fedora
> 8 system, as in:
> 
>    emacs -fn "DejaVu LGC Sans Mono-12"
> 
>    The system reports that the font is not found. 
> What gives ?
> 
>   * VmWare (category: very, very useful)
> 
>     vmware cannot be installed per se because there
> are no sources
>     available for that kernel in the repositories.
> 
>    uname -a
>    Linux localhost.localdomain 2.6.25-14.fc9.i686 #1
> SMP Thu May 1
>    06:28:41 EDT 2008 i686 i686 i386 GNU/Linux
> 
>    And the listing has:
> 
>    kernel-headers.i386 2.6.25.3-18.fc9 installed
> 
>    Why aren't the headers the same ?  And, where are
> they stored ?
>    Maybe I could install VmWare with these.
> 
>  * Konqueror browser
>   - 'right-click' and 'back' does not go back
> anymore
> 
>   I wonder what kind of upgrade in functionality
> this is.
> 
>  * Printer
> 
>   The two network printers couldn't be discovered
> automatically.
> 
>  * Shares
> 
>   The two CIFS shares can not be mounted.  Still
> have to investigate
>   on that one.
> 
> 
> These were the notes I've taken today.  Any
> comments/hints are
> 
=== message truncated ===


How about the ugly?

The Good, The Bad and the UGLY.

some would say that the ugly is gdm?  But that might
not be the no. 1 answer.  

Regards,

Antonio 


      

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