Re: Wpa_supplicant mystery

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Aaron Konstam wrote:
On Sun, 2008-05-11 at 15:21 -0400, Bill Davidsen wrote:
Aaron Konstam wrote:
<snip>
Documentation? NM has been around since FC6, and people seem to keep saying that the documentation is being worked on. At least on FC9beta it really didn't work, ignored the hardwire, and brought the WiFi up on a random open AP. I live between an apartment building and a college, there are enough open APs available to choose.
nations of the wicked."  - from Slashdot

http://live.gnome.org/DarrenAlbers/NetworkManagerFAQ


http://live.gnome.org/NetworkManager

I appreciate that you're trying to be helpful, but the FAQ does hand-waving instead of giving useful answers.

Example

Q: "How does NetworkManager select which wireless network to connect to?"

A: (part1) NM only attempts to automatically connect to networks you have previously told it to connect to. [not the case, it picked one]
The one it picks is generally the one you connected to last. I know you
are going to say you never connected before. No matter look at comment
under A.  part2.

(part2) If NM isn't connecting to the network you want, try to force it to connect to the network you wish to be connected,... [If I knew how to force it I wouldn't be reading the FAQ, now, would I?]
You left click on nm-applet icon and choose the AP ypu wnat to connect
to.

This will have to wait until I get back to the laptop, the machine I have handy shows all the information on the wired connection, but when I go to the tabs to edit connections, the current connection isn't shown, so I'm unable to edit that if I wanted to.

This may be due to a single wired connection, but I would expect that when I go to edit connections I would see them all, if I wanted to set the IP correctly instead of using one from the DHCP pool, for instance.

(part3) In version 0.6.6 and later there is a profile editor that can be used to add/remove networks. [Again, effort saved by not bothering to tell the user HOW to get that tool running]


All it would take is a hyperlink at each point where the reader is told to do something unfamiliar. However, not only is there no hyperlink, the index points to a single sentence on doing this, "For version 0.6.6 or later Use the Network Profile editor to remove unwanted networks." Do I have to tell you that there doesn't appear to be a link in the table of contents which describes the Network Profile Editor and how one accesses it?


I have written documentation for GE, IBM, SBC and technical articles for national magazines, I've dealt with enough editors to know that this FAQ is simply not well written for the target audience. And if I knew the topic I would offer to make changes, but I don't. But as people are forced to switch from known easy to use tools like system-config-network, a lot of people are going to be unhappy trying to learn a complex tool of limited capabilities.

I would have hoped that there would be a simple way to enter a list of APs, and an option to use any of them if only one were available, if more than one were available ASK, if none of the preferred list are available ASK. That suggestion came from someone about FC6...


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