On Thu, 2008-05-01 at 11:50 +1000, Da Rock wrote: > I don't agree with that- flash is well overused on the web by web > developers too lazy to do a job the right way so that everyone can use > it. That said, if ogg is supposed to be OSS, then that would meant > that windows users could view it, and I would think that Mac users > could too- so there you have it: a better solution. Just requires a > little more thought. Though that's putting the shoe on the other foot. Now, it's the hapless Windows user, who typically would have no idea how to add ogg support to their box, who's got to figure out how to view something. One reason that you won't get widespread support for open systems, like ogg, is that those who develop such things don't want to support digital rights management (i.e. letting outsiders control what the user can and cannot do), and content suppliers typically want to control what you can do (e.g. they stream audio/video so that you can watch it, but you can't save it - which makes dial-up viewing next to impossible). Content suppliers will use something else that suits them, and damn the users. Whilst there are restrictions on Flash, and hazards with using it, it will have the largest user base, already, for being able to simply view something non-static in the web browser. I just had a very quick search around, and I couldn't see a way to add ogg viewing to MSIE (e.g. theora). Sure, I can add things so that I can play ogg vorbis audio files in a player, but not view embedded content. And embedded content is what most suppliers want to use. Theora would need quite a bit of improvement, too. All of the ogg theora videos that I have seen have looked really crappy video quality. -- Don't send private replies to my address, the mailbox is ignored. I read messages from the public lists. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@xxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list