Re: Fedora Desktop future- RedHat moves

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On Tue, Apr 22, 2008 at 4:02 PM, Arthur Pemberton <pemboa@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> On Tue, Apr 22, 2008 at 2:43 PM, Robin Laing
> <Robin.Laing@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> > I came across this article and as a Fedora user at home and work, I think
> > this is important to know.
> >
> >  A few weeks ago, there was a discussion about Ubuntu on this list and I
> > feel that this is part of that discussion.
> >
> >  ----Article link----
> >
> >  The Biggest Blunder: Or why Red Hat and Novell just left the door wide open
> > to Ubuntu
> >  http://lxer.com/module/newswire/view/102011/index.html
> >
> >  In recent announcements both Red Hat and Novell made it pretty clear that
> > their foray onto the desktop would be delayed quite a bit longer. What they
> > do not know is that they just left the door wide open for Ubuntu to conquer
> > the desktop and the server space.
> >  ----/Article link-----
> >
> >
> >  Basically, both Novell and RedHat are backing away from pushing Linux to
> > the desktop.  But Ubuntu is not backing away.
> >
> >  As a Fedora user, I see this as an issue.  At home I need games and the
> > applications that my family use.  To date I have not had issues with Fedora
> > up to 7.  When I updated my machines at home, there were applications that I
> > couldn't get for F8 so I installed F7.  I have not checked to see if these
> > are available for F8 at present.  But they were available for the latest
> > release of Ubuntu.
> >
> >  I am interested in others views on this.
>
>
> Do what you feel is best. I have some qualms with how Ubuntu runs
> their distro, but I doubt they are shared by many. By all indications,
> Ubuntu is a better desktop distribution than Fedora.

How is Ubuntu better? They make things easier but I don't know if that
makes it better, is there no other reason?
I often suggest Ubuntu for people completely new to Linux but recently
I have had to reconsider that position. I have tried Ubuntu , it is
easy but first off, how do I recommend something I don't use?
Secondly , because I don't use it, I am much less familiar with how it
works and troubleshooting it  can be  harder than troubleshooting
fedora for that very reason. For these two reasons , plus the third
brought up here that RedHat will not aggressively pursue the desktop
market at this time, I wish Fedora would do one long term release. I
believe that is the only good thing about Ubuntu, they have one LTS
version. Besides eventually all desktops systems will be open source,
this is just a matter of time, and community supported. Right now home
users get no support, if you want support you have to pay. The
majority of desktop systems are in peoples homes.

Max

> I applaud RedHat for their focus, and would like to list some of the
> reasons that I use Fedora and not Ubuntu
>
>  * I started linux with RedHat, they made a lot possible for me
>  * I like RedHat as a company
>  * I like Fedora as a community
>  * I like the idea of pure OSS software, even though i do install
> Flash, Nvidia drivers etc
>  * I believe a lot of work gets done in Fedora, although sometimes it
> seems like there is no specific objective in mind
>  * I feel that there are far more jerks/iditos/annoyances in the
> Ubuntu community than i would prefer to deal
>  * Fedora works for me
>
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