On Sat, 2008-04-19 at 23:01 -0700, Craig White wrote: > On Sun, 2008-04-20 at 01:40 -0400, Ric Moore wrote: > > On Sat, 2008-04-19 at 21:05 -0700, Antonio Olivares wrote: > > > --- Ric Moore <wayward4now@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > > > > >If KDE4 isn't ready yet for prime-time, why > > > > release it?? > > > > > > Because the only way that the software becomes better > > > is if we test it and report bugs so that they get > > > fixed and in the end we will all win. I guess the > > > Fedora philosophy answers this question right away. > > > > > > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Overview > > > > > > <quote> > > > What is Fedora? Fedora is a Linux-based operating > > > system that showcases the latest in free and open > > > source software. Fedora is always free for anyone to > > > use, modify, and distribute. It is built by people > > > across the globe who work together as a community: the > > > Fedora Project. The Fedora Project is open and anyone > > > is welcome to join. The Fedora Project is out front > > > for you, leading the advancement of free, open > > > software and content. > > > </quote> > > > > Good Lord, Antonio, I could have quoted that one by heart. So, I know > > the deal, but if it is so crippled that it fails, releasing it on us > > might not be a great experience. We do expect ~most~ things to work, in > > Beta Fashion, but not as in Alpha fashion. Since I have not tried it, I > > can't say from my experience, but others are plainly very unhappy, so > > that makes me a tad nervous. Iron out the major stuff, then release. > > IMHO. Ric > ---- > Ric - you're missing a big point in order to make your own point. > > yes, if it's not going to work, there's no reason to go forward with it. > > But you're talking about a major version change of KDE and if Fedora 9 > were to release with KDE 3.5.5 it would be Fedora 10 before we see KDE > 4. > > What Kevin made clear is that they are all over trying to fix things to > make it as functional as possible on first release and see a lot more > updates on the horizon which will be released as soon as possible during > Fedora 9 lifetime. > > I'm a KDE user and eagerly looking forward to KDE 4 even knowing that it > won't necessarily be the smoothest transition. I haven't abandoned the > early and often release philosophy for Fedora...if I want stable, that's > what I get with RHEL. We agree then, I can handle a few bumps on the road, or the occasional pothole. But, some were expressing fairly large problems. As much as I love KDE, I hope and pray it'll be usable, is all. If Kevin needs an additional week or even a month, none of us will die. I appreciate everything that the team does, my point was that if they need a reprieve, give it to them. Being driven by a calender must make them crazy. It would me. Just showing "da love", ya know? :) Ric -- ================================================ My father, Victor Moore (Vic) used to say: "There are two Great Sins in the world... ..the Sin of Ignorance, and the Sin of Stupidity. Only the former may be overcome." R.I.P. Dad. Linux user# 44256 Sign up at: http://counter.li.org/ http://www.sourceforge.net/projects/oar http://www.wayward4now.net <---down4now too ================================================ -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@xxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
