--- Ric Moore <wayward4now@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > On Sat, 2008-04-19 at 12:02 -0700, Antonio Olivares > wrote: > > --- Ric Moore <wayward4now@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > > > > On Sat, 2008-04-19 at 18:28 +0100, Anne Wilson > > > wrote: > > > > On Saturday 19 April 2008 17:09:05 Patrick > > > O'Callaghan wrote: > > > > > On Sat, 2008-04-19 at 13:09 +0000, Kevin > Kofler > > > wrote: > > > > > > max <maximilianbianco <at> gmail.com> > writes: > > > > > > > I wish I had something useful to offer > here > > > but I tried KDE on Fedora > > > > > > > when I first loaded F7. Second class > ctizen. > > > It appears that is still > > > > > > > the case. Perhaps the Fedora KDE lovers > are > > > not vocal enough... > > > > > > > > > > > > That's not true. What he ran into was just > a > > > bug (which should be fixed > > > > > > already, crossing fingers). > > > > > > > > > > It's true to the extent that many people > > > (including RedHat people) > > > > > assume one is using Gnome, and most or all > of > > > the documentation also > > > > > makes this assumption, especially when > > > explaining how to do stuff from > > > > > the GUI. It's fair to say that Fedora is a > > > Gnome-centred distro that > > > > > *also* supports KDE. > > > > > > > > > I think that that *was* the case. I'm not > sure > > > that it still is so. Also, I > > > > believe that I read somewhere that RH did a > survey > > > of its Enterprise users, a > > > > year or so back, and found that around 50% of > them > > > use KDE. That's a big > > > > spur to getting to grips with it. I know that > a > > > lot of work has been done on > > > > KDE this year. > > > > > > Might be due to the Mono issue of Gnome as well. > I > > > just don't like Gnome > > > for quite a few reasons. I'll not start a KDE > Vs. > > > Gnome issue though. > > > It's just a matter of what I personally like, is > > > all. :) Ric > > Once Fedora 9 is released, you might like Gnome > Can't stand it over old political issues. I'd run > Windows first, and > that is saying a lot. Just me speaking for me, in > comparison I like the > way KDE is VERY configurable while Gnome, to me, is > like having Mom (or > worse yet, Stallman) "I know better" in the > computer. Fsck that. > > or > > XFCE better. > Used it long time, it's great for gaming machines > and very configurable > for a minimal installation on older gear, which is > why I use it when i > do. > > What's to keep us from jerking KDE4 out by the roots and just installing 3.5? No one should keep you from running KDE 3.5.X if that is what you need, you will have to get it from other sources, probably kde-redhat because Fedora will stick with KDE 4.0.X or 4.1.X if it gets there. >If KDE4 isn't ready yet for prime-time, why > release it?? Because the only way that the software becomes better is if we test it and report bugs so that they get fixed and in the end we will all win. I guess the Fedora philosophy answers this question right away. http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Overview <quote> What is Fedora? Fedora is a Linux-based operating system that showcases the latest in free and open source software. Fedora is always free for anyone to use, modify, and distribute. It is built by people across the globe who work together as a community: the Fedora Project. The Fedora Project is open and anyone is welcome to join. The Fedora Project is out front for you, leading the advancement of free, open software and content. </quote> > Under what > conditions does it fold like a house of cards? It has not folded for me, but it has complained about backtrace here and some app has crashed and many debugging errors, etc..etc.. I am attaching a sample to prove what I am writing about. [olivares@localhost ~]# kwrite(3174)/kdecore (KSycoca) KSycocaPrivate::openDatabase: Trying to open ksycoca from "/var/tmp/kdecache-root/ksycoca4" kwrite(3174)/kio (KDirWatch) KDirWatchPrivate::KDirWatchPrivate: Available methods: ("Stat", "FAM", "INotify") kwrite(3174) KateRendererConfig::setSchemaInternal: Loading template colors 0x899c4a8 kwrite(3174)/Kate (Scripting) KateJScriptHelpers::parseScriptHeader: Update script: "/usr/share/kde4/apps/katepart/jscript/indentation_c.js" kwrite(3174)/Kate (Scripting) KateJScriptHelpers::parseScriptHeader: found pair: ( "name" | "C Indenter" ) .... removed a bunch of lines here ..... X Error of failed request: BadFont (invalid Font parameter) Major opcode of failed request: 46 (X_CloseFont) Resource id in failed request: 0x3600039 Serial number of failed request: 389130 Current serial number in output stream: 389131 kwrite(3174)/kdecore (KSycoca) KSycocaPrivate::openDatabase: Trying to open ksycoca from "/var/tmp/kdecache-root/ksycoca4" Locking assertion failure. Backtrace: #0 /usr/lib/libxcb-xlib.so.0 [0xd4b767] #1 /usr/lib/libxcb-xlib.so.0(xcb_xlib_lock+0x2e) [0xd4b90e] #2 /usr/lib/libX11.so.6 [0xa54109] #3 /usr/lib/libXrender.so.1(XRenderFreePicture+0x41) [0xdecd71] #4 /usr/lib/libQtGui.so.4 [0x3d486d7] #5 /usr/lib/libQtGui.so.4(_ZN7QPixmap5derefEv+0x61) [0x3d45581] #6 /usr/lib/libQtGui.so.4(_ZN7QPixmapD1Ev+0x2d) [0x3d461bd] #7 /usr/lib/kde4/plugins/styles/oxygen.so [0x6420eca] #8 /usr/lib/kde4/plugins/styles/oxygen.so [0x642bae7] #9 /usr/lib/kde4/plugins/styles/oxygen.so [0x642e155] #10 /usr/lib/kde4/plugins/styles/oxygen.so [0x643fd6b] #11 /lib/libc.so.6(exit+0x89) [0x3586989] #12 /usr/lib/libX11.so.6 [0xa4c89e] #13 /usr/lib/libX11.so.6(_XError+0x109) [0xa4ca49] #14 /usr/lib/libX11.so.6 [0xa54ac8] #15 /usr/lib/libX11.so.6(_XReply+0x152) [0xa54e72] #16 /usr/lib/libX11.so.6(XSync+0x67) [0xa481f7] #17 /usr/lib/libX11.so.6(XCloseDisplay+0x8e) [0xa27e0e] #18 /usr/lib/libQtGui.so.4 [0x3cf2060] #19 /usr/lib/libQtGui.so.4(_ZN12QApplicationD2Ev+0x502) [0x3ca5fa2] kwrite: xcb_xlib.c:73: xcb_xlib_lock: Assertion `!c->xlib.lock' failed. KCrash: Application 'kwrite' crashing... sock_file=/olivares/.kde/socket-localhost.localdomain/kdeinit4__0 > Is it happy with a gig or more of memory? Yes it should be, but there's more the better it will run. > >Is it unhappy with less than a > gig of memory?? It will still run, but it will take a little bit longer than if it had more memory and a higher processor as well. >Video requirements stricter? Do not know about the video requirements, but many say that KDE is an OS all in itself. And that is saying many things. On another note, I have to say that probably the requirements for KDE and GNOME are equal. Both require 256MB or greater, 512 recommended as the release notes will hopefully state. Someone can clarify here, correct me if I am wrong as well. I cannot find the requirements. I have checked the KDE Pages: http://www.kde.org/announcements/announce-4.0.3.php This page: http://techbase.kde.org/index.php?title=Schedules/KDE4/4.1_Feature_Plan shows how far things are integrated and coming along. Somethings are not there yet, but will be just like Kevin mentioned in another email. Instructions on how to build KDE in Fedora are provided in the page below http://techbase.kde.org/index.php?title=Getting_Started/Build/KDE4/Fedora > > Time will tell. > Ain't that the truth!! It always does, and patience > with Linux is a necessity. Agree :) Regards, Antonio > > Regards, > > > > Antonio > Back atcha, :) Ric > > > -- > ================================================ > My father, Victor Moore (Vic) used to say: > "There are two Great Sins in the world... > ..the Sin of Ignorance, and the Sin of Stupidity. > Only the former may be overcome." R.I.P. 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