On Fri, 2008-04-11 at 01:51 -0500, Arthur Pemberton wrote: > Seems like a weird assumption for programs to make. Having a wifi link > doesn't imply internet access either. Maybe there should be a seperate > daemon which keeps track of the level of connectivity, eg. ping > google.com to verify connectivity to the internet. Yes, it doesn't seem a sane presumption. But I don't see the need to ping Google. If your IM client can't connect to its server, it's probably offline. Contrariwise, if your mail client can connect to its mail server, then that's all it needs to know. It doesn't matter whether internet access is there, as well. It just needs access to what it needs to use (e.g. your mailserver could be local). -- (This computer runs FC7, my others run FC4, FC5 & FC6, in case that's important to the thread.) Don't send private replies to my address, the mailbox is ignored. I read messages from the public lists.