When are we tossing JVM (read gcj) and going with the REAL Java?? Will that be in Fedora 9 as conjectured in the past? Oh PLEASE say it's so! >From what I'm seeing it looks like sun has it "distribution ready" with respect to new licensing? Ric -- ================================================ My father, Victor Moore (Vic) used to say: "There are two Great Sins in the world... ..the Sin of Ignorance, and the Sin of Stupidity. Only the former may be overcome." R.I.P. Dad. Linux user# 44256 Sign up at: http://counter.li.org/ http://www.sourceforge.net/projects/oar http://www.wayward4now.net <---down4now too ================================================