Aaron Konstam wrote: >> I have two laptops, elizabeth and mary, >> with identical PCMCIA WiFi cards, Orinoco Gold (firmware 6.04). >> >> I have two APs, with ESSIDs (say) wrt and agere. >> >> NM (NetworkManager) works fine on mary, >> linking always to wrt on eth1. >> >> NM never works on elizabeth, >> trying for some reason to link to agere on eth1. >> >> "service network" links elizabeth to agere on eth2. >> >> So WiFi works perfectly on both machines, >> but NM works only on one. > You might look here: > > http://live.gnome.org/DarrenAlbers/NetworkManagerFAQ Thanks for the pointer. I've looked through that, and don't see anything immediately helpful, except perhaps the mention of VPN. I said there was no difference between the laptops, but I see now that I am running OpenVPN on elizabeth - the laptop on which NM does not work - while I'm not running it on mary, where NM works. I'll try disabling OpenVPN, and see if that helps. One other small point. This FAQ says "If NetworkManager isn't connecting to the network you want, try to force it to connect to the network you wish to be connected, and NetworkManager will remember that setting next time." Actually, that is not the case on my laptop, elizabeth. I have entered the information for wrt many times, but I am never offered that AP.