i recall my 1st use of a time share on the local university's machine.. my 7th grade math teach was taking colleges courses, in like 1972.. and she had access to a tele-type machine with the dialup phone couple hooked to the machine... the machine created rollup punched out paper spools that we had written our "basic" programs on.... i thought punch cards were a step up when i got into college later on! i say all this as i cruise on a 4G-Mem/250G-Drive/17" laptop on a fast wireless network! my god i'm old!!! -----Original Message----- From: fedora-list-bounces@xxxxxxxxxx [mailto:fedora-list-bounces@xxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of Les Sent: Wednesday, April 02, 2008 8:10 AM To: For users of Fedora Subject: Re: Linux is KING - Couldn't be hacked - Mac, Vista went down inflames On Tue, 2008-04-01 at 20:36 -0700, Richard England wrote: > BRUCE STANLEY wrote: > > > > > > */Tim <ignored_mailbox@xxxxxxxxxxxx>/* wrote: > > > > Tim: > > >> have the CPU op-code cheat sheet in the coat pocket... ;-) > > > > Les: > > > I memorized it and threw it away. Does that mean I fail the test? > > > > If you code in pen and ink before even going near the computer, that > > counts. > > > > Back when I were a lad, we didn't use no debugger. We'd print the > > code, > > and attack the printout with pencils out to mark all the bugs and > > corrections, then type the changes back in. > > > > Tim, waiting for one of the old codgers to tell us a tale of how they > > had to make the valves and warm them up before starting... ;-) > > > > ========= > > > > Type them in? I remember punching them in on Hollerith cards. > > > > Dropped a pile of them once. > > > > That motivated me to have the punch card machine to put sequence numbers > > on the cards so that they could be resorted again. > > punch card machine > Try dropping two trays , each about 2.5 feet long. They did that to me > in the data center when I was in grad school. Luckily I had just > printed they contents out and resequenced them. The manager of the data > center had a cow when I told the staff to put the deck back together, > but my advisor (bless him) stood behind me and insisted that if they had > taken due care it wouldn't have happened. > > Ah cards, loved 'em (not). And drum cards. Boy there was an arcane art! > > ~~R > Did you have the diagonal line drawn on the top to help? If they were Fortran, or COBOL, you could always sort on the line number. I don't remember the other languages having line numbers. Regards, Les H -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@xxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list
