On Fri, 2008-03-28 at 11:19 +0900, John Summerfield wrote: > Craig White wrote: > > > > > Alternative theory here...you suffer from an over inflated value of your > > own opinions...nothing new there. > > > > Craig > > > > Take a look in the mirror, Craig. I think you're being unnecessarily > unpleasant. > > I don't always agree with Tim, and a while back we had a fairly long > disagreement, but I favour the conservative approach. ---- ignoring that it was response to this... > It's clear that you're one of those admins who doesn't see a problem > with throwing out the real mail, so long as you get rid of all the spam > at the same time. I wouldn't hire anyone with that attitude, it's > wilful sabotage. your assessment makes sense. I'm quite certain that my customers don't feel 'sabotaged' and I won't be seeking a job with him any time soon but the notion that he wouldn't hire me is beyond arrogance. I recognize that there are many different theories on running mail servers and those that are ISP's and handle e-mail for various customers are in a much different position than those that handle e-mail for a specific business. The problem with Tim is that he doesn't see anyone else's point of view...ever. He doesn't even bother with the notion of trying. I can assure you that for small-medium company, they are far better off with an aggressive, server based handling system so that each user doesn't have to deal with their own Junk mail filters - less phone calls for support because they can't find e-mails diverted to their Junk folder, slow computer response while retrieving e-mail and scanning content, etc. End user mail filtering is a complete waste of time, energy and computing power. That of course is not the Tim point of view. Craig