Patrick O'Callaghan: >> I also use KDE. Run gnome-control-center from the command line. Gene Heskett: > I didn't even know it existed, but its there. ??Why does it need 2+ feet of > vertical screen space, that seems excessive? Well, just looking at it now, it's spaced out so that everything's not horribly crammed together. It does give you a menu with one thing to scroll through to see all the contents, rather than have to navigate in and out through several menus. And if you've got a two-foot high screen, I'm coming over to nick it off of you... ;-) -- (This computer runs FC7, my others run FC4, FC5 & FC6, in case that's important to the thread.) Don't send private replies to my address, the mailbox is ignored. I read messages from the public lists.