On Sun, 2008-03-09 at 21:04 +0200, Axel Thimm wrote: > On Sun, Mar 09, 2008 at 01:08:52PM -0400, Todd Zullinger wrote: > > R. G. Newbury wrote: > > > You are apparently right about dev not being enabled by default. It > > > is not on this laptop and most assuredly not changed from the > > > default on the desktop machine which got screwed. > > > > That's good. The question then is "where are you getting kde4 > > packages that replace kde3 on anything other than rawhide?" > > > > I think you should post the output of "yum repolist" so we can see > > what repos you have enabled. > > > > > As to 'pretty stupid admin practice', well gee, (said he, chuckling > > > too) it was faac or faad or lame or some such which I was trying to > > > install so that the configure for mplayer would not barf. Those are > > > atrpm rpms, so "please forgive me" for not expecting that I would > > > get a whole new desktop too....for free!!! while I was looking > > > elsewhere. > > > > Okay, adding atrpms to the mix can surely complicate your life a bit. > > If you enable atrpms you can end up pulling in more than you want. > > Please don't simply discourage people from using a repo w/o checking > whether this issue has anything to do with their problem. There is > nothing from kde4 in ATrpms, I think the OP was angered about wanting > to update/install something completely irrelevant to kde and he got a > kde4 upgrade w/o him noticing due to using yum -y. But that's just the > way yum update works. > > > I'd recommend disabling it by default and then selectively enabling it > > at the command line when you want to install a specific package from > > there. > > No, please don't. If you do that, then better don't use the repo at > all. This practice leads to phantom bugs that people then consider > being caused by ATrpms which is not correct. > -- Sorry to insert an OT question, but I've been trying to fetch xmltv from ARpms for the last day or so, and I keep getting: http://dl.atrpms.net/fc8-i386/atrpms/stable/repodata/repomd.xml: [Errno 14] HTTP Error 404: Not Found Trying other mirror. Error: Cannot retrieve repository metadata (repomd.xml) for repository: atrpms. Please verify its path and try again Is this an error with my repo config or is there a real problem? poc