R. G. Newbury wrote:
> > I'm not nervous, I'm bloody mad.
>Then calm down and remind yourself that you haven't paid anyone for
>the software you're using. And that many other folks are using it
>just fine without the hassle you seem to have run into.
> > I did not *choose* to install a developement version.
>Then you've run into some really strange bug that most of us have
>never seen. The development repo does not get enabled by default. It
>requires you to manually enable it by editing that file or using the
>GUI tools to do the same.
> > Fedora 8 added the 'fedora-developement' repo to yum.repos.d. That
> > sis not happen in Fedora 7.
>Yes, it did. The file is there and is simply not enabled in F7, just
>as it is in F8.
> > THEN, Fedora 8 appears to have automagically done a global update,
> > although I did not ask for that. I was install a particular package
> > for mplayer and used the -y switch. Fedora decided it needed 75
>BING! That's pretty poor admin practice. And then you come here and>
bitch about stupidity? (Sorry if I pause and chuckle a little bit.)
You are apparently right about dev not being enabled by default. It is
not on this laptop and most assuredly not changed from the default on
the desktop machine which got screwed. I was misled by a prior poster's
puerile taunt that I had 'installed a d-e-v-e-l-o-p-e-m-e-n-t version'.
As noted I did not choose that, and it seems it is actually an UPDATE.
And fedora-updates IS enabled by default.
As to 'pretty stupid admin practice', well gee, (said he, chuckling too)
it was faac or faad or lame or some such which I was trying to install
so that the configure for mplayer would not barf. Those are atrpm rpms,
so "please forgive me" for not expecting that I would get a whole new
desktop too....for free!!! while I was looking elsewhere.
And I think I can still call 'stupid' on the maintainers. The "update"
apparently does not actually include all of the required files, and the
process is apparently not reversible, probably because of that fact.
Geoff
> > Besides the utter stupidity of an install/upgrade methodology which
> > is irreversable, KDE 4 is not yet ready for prime time.
And that's why it is only available in rawhide (the development repo).
If you can prove that you've found a bug that enables the development
repo without your intervention, then please file it. Otherwise, it
seems entirely likely that you have somehow enabled that repository.
> > I have since been able to confirm that Fedora now includes the dev
> > repo as it was created/installed by default on the re-install...
The development repo is included but not enabled by default. If you
are seeing different behavior than that, please take the time to
document how to reproduce it. I've done numerous installs of F8 and
have never seen the development repo enabled on any of them.
