Words by R. G. Newbury [Fri, Mar 07, 2008 at 11:43:57PM -0500]: > > R. G. Newbury <newbury <at> mandamus.org> writes: > >>> > >>HELP!...KDE 4 is a bloody disaster. At the moment, I have no KDE > >>"Start" > > > > (...) > >> > >And the easiest way to downgrade is to reinstall Fedora 8 from > scratch. > >> > >Kevin Kofler > > > > > > And isn't that one HELL of an advert for stupidity too!. > > > > > > And yes, it is....thankfully I have my data separated but it still takes > a > > > chunk of time, and now I have to re-update and install a whack-o-crap... > > > > > >Well, you're a bit too nervous. You installed a development version, > >guess you made a backup beforehand. > >I'll spell it out, d-e-v-e-l-o-p-m-e-n-t version. > > I'm not nervous, I'm bloody mad. I did not *choose* to install a > developement version. Fedora 8 added the 'fedora-developement' repo to > yum.repos.d. > Yeah. But did you enable it? [japc@morgoth:/etc/yum.repos.d]$ grep ^enable fedora-development.repo enabled=0 enabled=0 enabled=0 > That sis not happen in Fedora 7. THEN, Fedora 8 appears to have > automagically done a global update, although I did not ask for that. I was > install a particular package for mplayer and used the -y switch. Fedora > decided it needed 75 packages updated. I wasn't really watching as I did not > suspect that I would be updated into crap. > It is considered good practice to oversee installations/upgrades. > Besides the utter stupidity of an install/upgrade methodology which is > irreversable, KDE 4 is not yet ready for prime time. > It is not irreversible. As for KDE4 that's a matter of opinion, I would upgrade now as the improved konsole, konqueror, dolphin and gwenview are really good. And so is plasma. But my distaste for manual labor always takes the best. > > I have since been able to confirm that Fedora now includes the dev repo as > it was created/installed by default on the re-install...and I now have > another case of library hell underway and will have to nuke the beast and > start again, again. Because if ONE important file gets updated you cannot > revert it out without removing the 40 packages which depend on it. > > And no I didn't 'make a backup beforehand'. How could I reasonably make a > backup of the entire OS? > As everyone else, with rsync. > As it is, my data is on separate partitions. Nuking > the / partition is no problem. The waste of time to reinstall is the > problem. I don't do a clean install for 8 years now (tar and rsync have sufficed) so I wouldn't know. -- Jose Celestino ---------------------------------------------------------------- http://www.msversus.org/ ; http://techp.org/petition/show/1 http://www.vinc17.org/noswpat.en.html ---------------------------------------------------------------- "If you would have your slaves remain docile, teach them hymns." -- Ed Weathers ("The Empty Box")
