On Fri, 2008-03-07 at 23:43 -0500, R. G. Newbury wrote: > > R. G. Newbury <newbury <at> mandamus.org> writes: > >>> > >>HELP!...KDE 4 is a bloody disaster. At the moment, I have no > KDE >>"Start" > > > > (...) > >> > >And the easiest way to downgrade is to reinstall Fedora 8 from > scratch. > >> > >Kevin Kofler > > > > > > And isn't that one HELL of an advert for stupidity too!. > > > > > > And yes, it is....thankfully I have my data separated but it still > takes a > > > chunk of time, and now I have to re-update and install a > whack-o-crap... > > > > > >Well, you're a bit too nervous. You installed a development version, > >guess you made a backup beforehand. > >I'll spell it out, d-e-v-e-l-o-p-m-e-n-t version. > > I'm not nervous, I'm bloody mad. I did not *choose* to install a > developement version. Fedora 8 added the 'fedora-developement' repo to > yum.repos.d. That sis not happen in Fedora 7. THEN, Fedora 8 appears to > have automagically done a global update, although I did not ask for > that. I was install a particular package for mplayer and used the -y > switch. Fedora decided it needed 75 packages updated. I wasn't really > watching as I did not suspect that I would be updated into crap. > > Besides the utter stupidity of an install/upgrade methodology which is > irreversable, KDE 4 is not yet ready for prime time. > > I have since been able to confirm that Fedora now includes the dev repo > as it was created/installed by default on the re-install...and I now > have another case of library hell underway and will have to nuke the > beast and start again, again. Because if ONE important file gets updated > you cannot revert it out without removing the 40 packages which depend > on it. > > And no I didn't 'make a backup beforehand'. How could I reasonably make > a backup of the entire OS? As it is, my data is on separate partitions. > Nuking the / partition is no problem. The waste of time to reinstall is > the problem. ---- it's included but not enabled by default enabled=0 each is clearly labeled this way. But in reality, this shouldn't be that big of a deal to go to runlevel 3, remove KDE-4, disable development if you enabled it, and install kde all over again. Craig