Tim Waugh wrote: > Still no debug log messages. Can you manually change the 'LogLevel' > line in /etc/cups/cupsd.conf so that it reads: > > LogLevel debug2 > > and then restart cups with '/sbin/service cups restart'? Not sure why > 'cupsctl --debug-logging' isn't working for you. Ok, "this time for sure" as Bullwinkle would say. The logs are quite lengthy so I will make them available to you over the web. This is what cups logs after "service cups restart:" http://www.os2.dhs.org/~john/cups-restart.txt There seems to be some process limiting the length of the log files, truncating and starting a new file. This section is as close to the start of the print process as I could capture; it literally fills so quickly that it has already overwritten the first part by the time I am able to capture anything: http://www.os2.dhs.org/~john/cups-error_log.O And alas, my cups problems seem to be multiplying. I can no longer use the command line tools to administer the job queue. lpq, lpstat, lpadmin do not start -- they just sit there until I break out with ^c. -- John (john@xxxxxxxxxxx)