Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
On Wed, 2008-02-27 at 17:10 -0500, Bill Davidsen wrote:
Da Rock wrote:
Ok, I know a little of this has been covered before, but I have some new
info after some exhaustive debugging.
After the feedback regarding the repo conflicts, I decided to resolve
this once and for all. I uninstalled all mplayer, x264 and xine
packages, and reinstalled only the livna versions.
This produced mixed results. Firstly, Yum reported the packages
installed. When you go back and check what is installed (version, etc)
it stated that the freshrpms versions were installed- but only some. So
I ended up with some livna and some freshrpms, despite the fact that I
selected only livna packages to be installed.
So I uninstalled it all again. This time I went to the livna site and
downloaded and installed them manually. Now it came up and said
installed, but some codecs weren't installing due to a missing
libx264.so.56. I checked again what was installed and what provided
x264- livna was installed.
This seemed very confusing to me, so I physically checked the contents
of the rpm. The livna package did contain the library file
libx264.so.56- so why didn't the livna package repo recognise its own
files?
I also checked the freshrpms version, and this contained libx264.so.58.
Technically then, Yum shouldn't be declaring that libx264.so.56 is
contained in the freshrpms file, and the 2 versions shouldn't conflict,
should they?
So I put it to all- what the hell is going on here? Neither repo appears
to be able to declare what the packages ACTUALLY provide, and Yum is
getting very confused. So who's fault is it? Where does the
responsibility lie?
With you. Once you have used a non-fedora repository you have assumed
responsibility for determining compatibility and resolving all
conflicts. Once you start using more than one you you have assumed
responsibility for those conflicts as well. The fault is yours.
The solution is to put both repositories in as disables in the config,
then use --enablerepo on one or the other. I don't suggest mixing them,
I'm still trying to sort a problem I caused myself using only livna,
something used by pine isn't right and I can't find out what to get it
out and clean it up. Fortunately it's not critical on that system.
I understand your problem, but you should understand it's YOUR problem,
you caused it, the responsibility lies with you. And for my broken
machine, with me.
Though this is technically true, it's unhelpful to the naive user (and
we're all naive at some time or another). It would not be beyond reason
for Yum to know that certain repos work well with each other and others
don't, and to warn the user when conflicts might occur. A plugin
perhaps?
My impression, based on the question "So who's fault is it? Where does
the responsibility lie?" was that the O.P. was looking for someone
(else) to blame. I did very clearly tell him who was responsible, but I
did offer some suggestions regarding how to set up a system to only use
alternate repos when explicitly asked.
I wasn't going out of my was to be diplomatic, but I didn't call him
names, either. ;-)
And I did mention that even taking precautions, you can cause yourself
problems.
--
Bill Davidsen <davidsen@xxxxxxx>
"We have more to fear from the bungling of the incompetent than from
the machinations of the wicked." - from Slashdot
