On Sun, 2008-02-17 at 19:01 +0100, Nigel Henry wrote: > On Friday 15 February 2008 20:32, Mark C. Allman wrote: > > On Fri, 2008-02-15 at 20:09 +0100, Nigel Henry wrote: > > > On Friday 15 February 2008 02:35, Mark C. Allman wrote: > > > > On Thu, 2008-02-14 at 22:13 +0100, Nigel Henry wrote: > > > > > On Thursday 14 February 2008 18:01, Mark C. Allman wrote: > > > > > > On Wed, 2008-02-13 at 22:43 +0100, Nigel Henry wrote: > > > > > > > On Wednesday 13 February 2008 21:34, Frank Chiulli wrote: > > > > > > > > Nigel, > > > > > > > > I have a Sound Blaster Live! Value. This is an older machine. > > > > > > > > F8 detected the card automatically. Unfortunately I can't tell > > > > > > > > you exactly when I got the error. I had tried lots of things > > > > > > > > to get sound to work but never did. It wasn't a big deal. > > > > > > > > Then I was looking at something else when I was the error. I > > > > > > > > figured that I would take a look at it. It seems like an easy > > > > > > > > fix. It seems pretty obvious to me what was wrong. So I > > > > > > > > corrected it. Then sound worked. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Frank > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks for the reply Frank. I was hoping that you would say that > > > > > > > your card was also an isa one, and would tie it in with Aarons > > > > > > > problems. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It's nice to see that both of you have resolved the problem, but > > > > > > > what's going on to cause these problems is beyond me. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > As you see from what I posted above, my audigy2 soundblaster was > > > > > > > detected ok, and apart from disabling pulseaudio by removing > > > > > > > alsa-plugins-pulseaudio, and adding the usual lines to > > > > > > > /etc/modprobe.conf for my usb midi keyboard that uses > > > > > > > snd-usb-audio, the sounds are working ok. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Anyway, the fact that both you and Aaron now have sounds is the > > > > > > > main thing. Quite why you've both had problems, and me none, I've > > > > > > > no idea. That's computers for you. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nigel. > > > > > > > > > > Mark says: > > > > > > When I run the "alsa-info.sh" script I see an error message when it > > > > > > tries to collect the data that says something like "no soundcard > > > > > > found." I think it's the same error that I see when I run aplay to > > > > > > list out cards: > > > > > > [mcallman@prez tmp]$ aplay -l > > > > > > aplay: device_list:205: no soundcards found... > > > > > > > > > > > > Also, when I look at the script results, I see the following at > > > > > > about line 65 (this is after I tried "model=toshiba" in > > > > > > modprobe.conf even though my laptop is a Dell XPS 1710): > > > > > > Loaded sound module option > > > > > > -------------------------- > > > > > > Module: snd_hda_intel > > > > > > enable : N > > > > > > id : <NULL> > > > > > > index : 0 > > > > > > model : toshiba > > > > > > position_fix : 0 > > > > > > power_save : 0 > > > > > > power_save_controller : Y > > > > > > probe_mask : -1 > > > > > > single_cmd : N > > > > > > > > > > > > Could the "enable: N" line be the key here? For those of you that > > > > > > have sound working, what do you see listed for "enable?" > > > > > > > > > > > > If it helps, you can look at all the test results that the script > > > > > > uploaded at: > > > > > > http://pastebin.ca/903970 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- Mark C. Allman, PMP > > > > > > > > > > Hi Mark. I've sort of lost the plot a bit, but do you have your sound > > > > > working now? > > > > > > > > > > I ask because the Alsa development folks are working hard on > > > > > resolving problems, particularly with the hda intel cards. Alsa > > > > > driver 1.0.16 has just been released, and I see many patches being > > > > > applied to the hda intel codecs, including your STAC9200 one. > > > > > > > > > > Nigel. > > > > > > > > Sound works using: > > > > Pidgin > > > > VLC (playing Rush/Tom Sawyer right now) > > > > RealAudio > > > > > > > > It does not work for: > > > > gnome-cd (won't start a track) > > > > grip (starts reading tracks, but no sound) > > > > aplay/arecord ("no soundcard found") > > > > Flash in Firefox > > > > system-config-soundcard (everything's there--just no sound!!) > > > > > > > > I can pipe a ".au" file (if I remember the extension correctly) > > > > to /dev/audio and I hear it. > > > > > > > > Some "/proc/asound" stuff: > > > > [mcallman@prez X11]$ ls /proc/asound/ > > > > card0 cards devices hwdep Intel modules oss pcm seq timers version > > > > [mcallman@prez X11]$ cat /proc/asound/cards > > > > 0 [Intel ]: HDA-Intel - HDA Intel > > > > HDA Intel at 0xdfffc000 irq 21 > > > > [mcallman@prez X11]$ ls /proc/asound/card0 > > > > codec#0 codec#1 id oss_mixer pcm0c pcm0p pcm1p > > > > [mcallman@prez X11]$ cat /proc/asound/pcm > > > > 00-01: STAC92xx Digital : STAC92xx Digital : playback 1 > > > > 00-00: STAC92xx Analog : STAC92xx Analog : playback 1 : capture 1 > > > > [mcallman@prez X11]$ cat /proc/asound/modules > > > > 0 snd_hda_intel > > > > [mcallman@prez X11]$ cat /proc/asound/devices > > > > 2: : timer > > > > 3: : sequencer > > > > 4: [ 0- 1]: digital audio playback > > > > 5: [ 0- 0]: digital audio playback > > > > 6: [ 0- 0]: digital audio capture > > > > 7: [ 0- 1]: hardware dependent > > > > 8: [ 0- 0]: hardware dependent > > > > 9: [ 0] : control > > > > [mcallman@prez X11]$ ls -ld /proc/asound/Intel > > > > lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 5 2008-02-14 20:18 /proc/asound/Intel -> > > > > card0 > > > > > > > > Any suggestions would be welcome. If any of the Alsa development folks > > > > would like a test bed to try out ideas just let me know. > > > > > > > > -- Mark C. Allman > > > > > > Hi Mark. I know I've got pulseaudio on the brain, as I had problems with > > > it, and disabled it, but have you got the default install of F8, where > > > pulseaudio is enabled? I ask because of the sound apps that you have > > > working. Realplayer uses OSS, VLC uses natively OSS, or Alsa, and also > > > Gnomes ESD. Not sure about Pidgin (Gaim), but I believe it uses OSS for > > > it's sounds. Puzzling why Alsa apps won't work. > > > > > > If you havn't messed with pulseaudio since installing F8, I think I'd do > > > a: yum remove alsa-plugins-pulseaudio > > > > > > having done that I'd see if now aplay, audio cd's, etc work. > > > > > > Enough for now. > > > > > > Nigel. > > > > The only PulseAudio package I have installed is > > pulseaudio-libs-0.9.8-5.fc8. It's needed for > > libflashsupport-000-0.1.svn20070904. > > Hi Marc. Sorry for the delay in replying. I spent a while today going back > through the alsa-devel archives, and the only reference to the Dell XPS 1710, > was one for the Dell XPS M1710w (which may well be the same machine), and was > to do with a problem with the subwoofer not working with the alsa 1.0.14 > driver, and on a Suse install. See below for the thread. > http://mailman.alsa-project.org/pipermail/alsa-devel/2007-August/subject.html > > I'll contact the guy directly, after you've replied to this post, to see if he > had any problems with getting sound working on his machine. I'd like to > clarify some things with you first though. > > First, and I hate to say the word, but pulseaudio. I know you have removed > most of the pulseaudio packages, but would you confirm that the > "alsa-plugins-pulseaudio" package is no longer installed. Yumex should show > if it's installed, or rpm -q alsa-plugins-pulseaudio. > > Secondly, and just out of interest, do you have access to alsamixer on the > command line? > > Thirdly. You have model options for snd-hda-intel set as model=toshiba. From > the ALSA-configuration.txt file, that's in the alsa driver tarball, I see the > following model options, including one for the Dell XPS M1710 > (model=dell-m23). It's worth trying that one, as it seems pretty specific. > See below for the full list of options. (It's for the 1.0.15 alsa driver) > > STAC9200 > ref Reference board > dell-d21 Dell (unknown) > dell-d22 Dell (unknown) > dell-d23 Dell (unknown) > dell-m21 Dell Inspiron 630m, Dell Inspiron 640m > dell-m22 Dell Latitude D620, Dell Latitude D820 > dell-m23 Dell XPS M1710, Dell Precision M90 > dell-m24 Dell Latitude 120L > dell-m25 Dell Inspiron E1505n > dell-m26 Dell Inspiron 1501 > dell-m27 Dell Inspiron E1705/9400 > gateway Gateway laptops with EAPD control > > > > The OSS packages I have installed: > > alsa-oss-libs-1.0.14-3.fc8 > > nss_compat_ossl-0.9.2-3.fc8 > > alsa-oss-1.0.14-3.fc8 > > alsa-plugins-oss-1.0.15-2.fc8 > > > > > > -- Mark C. Allman > > Over to you, and all the best. > > Nigel. > For pulseaudio: The only PulseAudio package I have installed is pulseaudio-libs-0.9.8-5.fc8. For option values in modprobe: I tried all ("all") the dell values. Someone earlier said they used "toshiba" even though their laptop wasn't a Toshiba, so I thought I'd try it. No luck, of course. alsamixer: [mcallman@prez tmp]$ alsamixer alsamixer: function snd_ctl_open failed for default: No such file or directory -- Mark C. Allman, PMP -- Allman Professional Consulting, Inc. -- www.allmanpc.com, 617-947-4263 BusinessMsg -- the secure, managed, J2EE/AJAX Enterprise IM/IC solution
