On Friday 15 February 2008 20:32, Mark C. Allman wrote: > On Fri, 2008-02-15 at 20:09 +0100, Nigel Henry wrote: > > On Friday 15 February 2008 02:35, Mark C. Allman wrote: > > > On Thu, 2008-02-14 at 22:13 +0100, Nigel Henry wrote: > > > > On Thursday 14 February 2008 18:01, Mark C. Allman wrote: > > > > > On Wed, 2008-02-13 at 22:43 +0100, Nigel Henry wrote: > > > > > > On Wednesday 13 February 2008 21:34, Frank Chiulli wrote: > > > > > > > Nigel, > > > > > > > I have a Sound Blaster Live! Value. This is an older machine. > > > > > > > F8 detected the card automatically. Unfortunately I can't tell > > > > > > > you exactly when I got the error. I had tried lots of things > > > > > > > to get sound to work but never did. It wasn't a big deal. > > > > > > > Then I was looking at something else when I was the error. I > > > > > > > figured that I would take a look at it. It seems like an easy > > > > > > > fix. It seems pretty obvious to me what was wrong. So I > > > > > > > corrected it. Then sound worked. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Frank > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks for the reply Frank. I was hoping that you would say that > > > > > > your card was also an isa one, and would tie it in with Aarons > > > > > > problems. > > > > > > > > > > > > It's nice to see that both of you have resolved the problem, but > > > > > > what's going on to cause these problems is beyond me. > > > > > > > > > > > > As you see from what I posted above, my audigy2 soundblaster was > > > > > > detected ok, and apart from disabling pulseaudio by removing > > > > > > alsa-plugins-pulseaudio, and adding the usual lines to > > > > > > /etc/modprobe.conf for my usb midi keyboard that uses > > > > > > snd-usb-audio, the sounds are working ok. > > > > > > > > > > > > Anyway, the fact that both you and Aaron now have sounds is the > > > > > > main thing. Quite why you've both had problems, and me none, I've > > > > > > no idea. That's computers for you. > > > > > > > > > > > > Nigel. > > > > > > > > Mark says: > > > > > When I run the "alsa-info.sh" script I see an error message when it > > > > > tries to collect the data that says something like "no soundcard > > > > > found." I think it's the same error that I see when I run aplay to > > > > > list out cards: > > > > > [mcallman@prez tmp]$ aplay -l > > > > > aplay: device_list:205: no soundcards found... > > > > > > > > > > Also, when I look at the script results, I see the following at > > > > > about line 65 (this is after I tried "model=toshiba" in > > > > > modprobe.conf even though my laptop is a Dell XPS 1710): > > > > > Loaded sound module option > > > > > -------------------------- > > > > > Module: snd_hda_intel > > > > > enable : N > > > > > id : <NULL> > > > > > index : 0 > > > > > model : toshiba > > > > > position_fix : 0 > > > > > power_save : 0 > > > > > power_save_controller : Y > > > > > probe_mask : -1 > > > > > single_cmd : N > > > > > > > > > > Could the "enable: N" line be the key here? For those of you that > > > > > have sound working, what do you see listed for "enable?" > > > > > > > > > > If it helps, you can look at all the test results that the script > > > > > uploaded at: > > > > > http://pastebin.ca/903970 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- Mark C. Allman, PMP > > > > > > > > Hi Mark. I've sort of lost the plot a bit, but do you have your sound > > > > working now? > > > > > > > > I ask because the Alsa development folks are working hard on > > > > resolving problems, particularly with the hda intel cards. Alsa > > > > driver 1.0.16 has just been released, and I see many patches being > > > > applied to the hda intel codecs, including your STAC9200 one. > > > > > > > > Nigel. > > > > > > Sound works using: > > > Pidgin > > > VLC (playing Rush/Tom Sawyer right now) > > > RealAudio > > > > > > It does not work for: > > > gnome-cd (won't start a track) > > > grip (starts reading tracks, but no sound) > > > aplay/arecord ("no soundcard found") > > > Flash in Firefox > > > system-config-soundcard (everything's there--just no sound!!) > > > > > > I can pipe a ".au" file (if I remember the extension correctly) > > > to /dev/audio and I hear it. > > > > > > Some "/proc/asound" stuff: > > > [mcallman@prez X11]$ ls /proc/asound/ > > > card0 cards devices hwdep Intel modules oss pcm seq timers version > > > [mcallman@prez X11]$ cat /proc/asound/cards > > > 0 [Intel ]: HDA-Intel - HDA Intel > > > HDA Intel at 0xdfffc000 irq 21 > > > [mcallman@prez X11]$ ls /proc/asound/card0 > > > codec#0 codec#1 id oss_mixer pcm0c pcm0p pcm1p > > > [mcallman@prez X11]$ cat /proc/asound/pcm > > > 00-01: STAC92xx Digital : STAC92xx Digital : playback 1 > > > 00-00: STAC92xx Analog : STAC92xx Analog : playback 1 : capture 1 > > > [mcallman@prez X11]$ cat /proc/asound/modules > > > 0 snd_hda_intel > > > [mcallman@prez X11]$ cat /proc/asound/devices > > > 2: : timer > > > 3: : sequencer > > > 4: [ 0- 1]: digital audio playback > > > 5: [ 0- 0]: digital audio playback > > > 6: [ 0- 0]: digital audio capture > > > 7: [ 0- 1]: hardware dependent > > > 8: [ 0- 0]: hardware dependent > > > 9: [ 0] : control > > > [mcallman@prez X11]$ ls -ld /proc/asound/Intel > > > lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 5 2008-02-14 20:18 /proc/asound/Intel -> > > > card0 > > > > > > Any suggestions would be welcome. If any of the Alsa development folks > > > would like a test bed to try out ideas just let me know. > > > > > > -- Mark C. Allman > > > > Hi Mark. I know I've got pulseaudio on the brain, as I had problems with > > it, and disabled it, but have you got the default install of F8, where > > pulseaudio is enabled? I ask because of the sound apps that you have > > working. Realplayer uses OSS, VLC uses natively OSS, or Alsa, and also > > Gnomes ESD. Not sure about Pidgin (Gaim), but I believe it uses OSS for > > it's sounds. Puzzling why Alsa apps won't work. > > > > If you havn't messed with pulseaudio since installing F8, I think I'd do > > a: yum remove alsa-plugins-pulseaudio > > > > having done that I'd see if now aplay, audio cd's, etc work. > > > > Enough for now. > > > > Nigel. > > The only PulseAudio package I have installed is > pulseaudio-libs-0.9.8-5.fc8. It's needed for > libflashsupport-000-0.1.svn20070904. Hi Marc. Sorry for the delay in replying. I spent a while today going back through the alsa-devel archives, and the only reference to the Dell XPS 1710, was one for the Dell XPS M1710w (which may well be the same machine), and was to do with a problem with the subwoofer not working with the alsa 1.0.14 driver, and on a Suse install. See below for the thread. http://mailman.alsa-project.org/pipermail/alsa-devel/2007-August/subject.html I'll contact the guy directly, after you've replied to this post, to see if he had any problems with getting sound working on his machine. I'd like to clarify some things with you first though. First, and I hate to say the word, but pulseaudio. I know you have removed most of the pulseaudio packages, but would you confirm that the "alsa-plugins-pulseaudio" package is no longer installed. Yumex should show if it's installed, or rpm -q alsa-plugins-pulseaudio. Secondly, and just out of interest, do you have access to alsamixer on the command line? Thirdly. You have model options for snd-hda-intel set as model=toshiba. From the ALSA-configuration.txt file, that's in the alsa driver tarball, I see the following model options, including one for the Dell XPS M1710 (model=dell-m23). It's worth trying that one, as it seems pretty specific. See below for the full list of options. (It's for the 1.0.15 alsa driver) STAC9200 ref Reference board dell-d21 Dell (unknown) dell-d22 Dell (unknown) dell-d23 Dell (unknown) dell-m21 Dell Inspiron 630m, Dell Inspiron 640m dell-m22 Dell Latitude D620, Dell Latitude D820 dell-m23 Dell XPS M1710, Dell Precision M90 dell-m24 Dell Latitude 120L dell-m25 Dell Inspiron E1505n dell-m26 Dell Inspiron 1501 dell-m27 Dell Inspiron E1705/9400 gateway Gateway laptops with EAPD control > > The OSS packages I have installed: > alsa-oss-libs-1.0.14-3.fc8 > nss_compat_ossl-0.9.2-3.fc8 > alsa-oss-1.0.14-3.fc8 > alsa-plugins-oss-1.0.15-2.fc8 > > > -- Mark C. Allman Over to you, and all the best. Nigel.
