Hi; I run KDE the system is fully updated. K -> switch user -> start new session clisk the next "start new session" login as mick enter password. So far so good. The desktop comes up as normal. Error box for soundserver - srtsd. System completely locke, no keyboard no mouse. ctrl-alt-F1 ctrl-alt-del, ctrl-alt-BS all dead. This is a very recent bug. Happens in 2.6.23.14-115.fc8 and 2.6.23.9-85.fc8. It used to work in the older kernel. Mick Death before Decaf!!! ____________________________________________________________________________________ Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Yahoo! Search. http://tools.search.yahoo.com/newsearch/category.php?category=shopping