-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 It would appear that on Feb 7, Gabriel M. Elder did say: > I haven't seen any other replies, so here goes... > > Two things come to mind offhand: yum-updatesd and /usr/bin/puplet. - - - - - - - - -< s n i p >- - - - - - - - - - Thanks. That's just what I needed. (I think) I'll post another reply to let you know how it worked out... Your description of why those two are the ones I may try disabling, was the most easily understandable informative reply. I've seen in a long time. Thank you! It sounds to me like I should try disabling both services. Then if anything I care about suddenly gets broken, I'll try re-enabling yum-updatesd. > Or, if it's nagging you about updates, you could just install the > updates :p. I prefer to periodically boot into run level 3, login as root, type yum update... Or when using Kubuntu I type apt-get upgrade the same way. But never both in the same week. > Unless, of course, something is broken, and it keeps nagging > you to install the update, even after you install it. But something like > that could _never_ happen, right? ;p No that would be like the chances of something blocking assigning a working keyboard shortcut to logout which asks if ooffice document changes need to be saved. While still letting me instantly crash the xserver with ctrl-alt-backspace... That could nev--- errr But come to think of it that is just whats happened to my fc8 installation. In neither the otherwise working pull-down system>pref>personal>keyboardshortcuts nor in the totally non-functional kcontrol>Regional&Accessibility>keyboardshortcuts can I successfully assign a keyboard shortcut to the logout function that I get with {alt}+{f1}>System>LogOut. I have tried using something besides {ctrl}+{alt}+{del} But it just doesn't get there. Yet God forbid I should have unsaved changes in an important spreadsheet when I accidentally do an {ctrl}+{alt}+{backspace} cause that shortcut still works. Go figure??? As it happens I like logging out with the three fingered salute, confirming with an enter, wait a few seconds for my startx initialized kde session to fall back to the virtual console login where I can, choose to use non-X software, su -c 'yum update', or hit the same three fingered salute my fingers are still touching to reboot... I don't suppose that you would happen to know what would be blocking that shortcut???? ############################################################# ##_if_you'd_prefer_an_clearsigned_".asc"_text_file_of_this_## ##message_as_an_mime_encoded_attachment,just_ask_me_while__## ##it's_STILL_IN_my_outbox_folder_._._._=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+;-)_## #gpg sig for: Joe (theWordy) Philbrook DSA key ID 0x6C2163DE# # You can find my public gpg key at http://pgpkeys.mit.edu/ # ############################################################# -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFHrEyiRZ/61mwhY94RArE7AJ4/lyUuRvW2mVjI3kmqlnXoHpZm1gCgtKR9 xFoK+163eTxbW001GSOq3A4= =4zFs -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- | ~^~ ~^~ | <?> <?> Joe (theWordy) Philbrook | ^ J(tWdy)P | \___/ <<jtwdyp@xxxxxxxx>>