On Thu, 2008-01-31 at 10:06 -0500, James Kosin wrote: > Everyone, > > In all fairness to Karl (and others like him), we need to be fair. > > (1) This is a list for beginners and users. Good God! Who told you that? I would never in my wildest dreams recommend Fedora to a beginner. Lordy no. <shudders> We've been over and over a zillion times how Fedora is a beta test platform for RH. Beginner space? I don't think so, IMHO. Surely not by design. Ric -- ================================================ My father, Victor Moore (Vic) used to say: "There are two Great Sins in the world... ..the Sin of Ignorance, and the Sin of Stupidity. Only the former may be overcome." R.I.P. Dad. Linux user# 44256 Sign up at: http://counter.li.org/ http://www.sourceforge.net/projects/oar http://www.wayward4now.net <---down4now too ================================================