On Thu, 2008-01-31 at 14:40 +0000, Ian Malone wrote: > On 31/01/2008, Les Mikesell <lesmikesell@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > > He was told different and conflicting ways by different people and > > following different sets of advice broke things. Why should an > > extremely common user requirement have to be satisfied by following some > > random other user's advice from a mail list? As we can see by example, > > this doesn't work that well. > > > > Well, one could Google for the answer, look at the unofficial > FAQs or read the responses on the mailing list and try to > form a sensible assessment of the advice being given. > > > > Anyway, we've heard this axe ground so often I'm surprised there's > > > anything left of it. > > > > Does the truth hurt? What's the problem with repeating it? > > Mainly that it got boring a while back. > > > I'd like to see something resembling truth-in-advertising on the > > project site about > [...] > > "Fedora is a Linux-based operating system that showcases the latest in > free and open source software." I think you might agree that it would be more correct to state: "Fedora is a Linux-based operating system that showcases the latest in free and open source software to be beta tested by it's advanced community of experienced users." Plus add this caveat: "It is not suggested for dweebs nor the intellectually challenged." ;) THAT would be more honest. I would add that while some may dissent at times, including myself, that should not be confused with disloyalty. Edward R Morrow said to Senator McCarthy during the Senate hearings, when McCarthy would label anyone that disagreed with him a Communist, "Do not confuse my dissent with disloyalty, Sir." <smiles wistfully> Ric -- ================================================ My father, Victor Moore (Vic) used to say: "There are two Great Sins in the world... ..the Sin of Ignorance, and the Sin of Stupidity. Only the former may be overcome." R.I.P. Dad. Linux user# 44256 Sign up at: http://counter.li.org/ http://www.sourceforge.net/projects/oar http://www.wayward4now.net <---down4now too ================================================