Re: Good bye

[Chris Jones <jonesc@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

Hi,

> > I prefer the original definition which was effectively 'non-OSS, 
> > binary kernel blob and alike ambivalent' -
>
> Which, once you understand the need for those items, translates pretty 
> clearly to user-hostile.

For you, not for me.

> > You may disagree but many people, and I think Fedora in general, 
> > considers this to be good for the user, in the long run.
>
> Yes, I do disagree as I do in other cases where religious beliefs are 
> used to justify hostile actions as being 'good' for others.  My own 
> belief is that the availability of an 'affordable' system (both in price 
> and effort to maintain) is much more important than 'free with 
> restrictions', and 'affordable' won't happen unless all parties cooperate.

Religion has nothing to do with this, please don't muddy the waters with 
that can-o-worms.

What you believe is fine, I have some sympathy for your view point. My 
point is Fedora has placed itself at a particular niche in the linux 
distro landscape that doesn't match your wishes. I applaud Fedora for 
the semi-radical stance they take and believe we need a distro out there 
like that. As much as I believe we need a distro like ubuntu.

> > Ubuntu takes a different view point on what is good for the user, 
> > which seems to match yours better. I personally think we need both 
> > view points, and trying to suggest Fedora should become more like 
> > Ubuntu is a bad idea which will never happen.
>
> I guess whether you think it's good or bad depends on whether you'd like 
> more or fewer people to learn RH style administration vs. the 
> debian/ubuntu style.  I have enough time invested in learning RH style 
> that I'd prefer not to start over.

For me that is a non issue. I recently did the switch on one of my home 
machines and really, once you get over the deb v rpm, apt v yum or sudo 
v root differences, the differences are really cosmetic. IMHO anyone who 
knows there way around one distro will not take long to find there way 
around the other.

Chris