On Fri, 2008-01-25 at 00:24 +0000, Ian Malone wrote: > Craig White wrote: > > On Thu, 2008-01-24 at 16:20 -0500, Jacques B. wrote: > >> On Jan 24, 2008 4:15 PM, Bazooka Joe <fastfish@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > >>> ahh, all true. But if we all ran open wireless networks then the cops > >>> would know that this could be an open network and would handle it > >>> differently. Right now they assume one ip one person because people > >>> like you keep it that way. > >>> > >>> > >> #1 - You will not get everybody to run open wireless APs. Most people > >> recognize the insecurities and potential harmful consequences of that. > >> > >> #2 - So you are suggesting we should make things more difficult for > >> police to track down pedophiles, people launching DDOS, spammers, etc? > >> Make it yet more convenient for these people to further hide their > >> activities? > > ---- > > I suppose we could get into a deep philosophical discussion about how > > our governments want us to be scared because it helps keep us under > > control versus a free/open society where people are expected to behave > > with respect. Let's not go down the path of pedophiles, mother rapers, > > father rapers, terrorists, etc. > > > > Ultimately, it has nothing to do with Fedora. > > > > Your both right...I like Bazooka Joe's thinking. There are some > > communities that have sought to create wireless zones for everyone. > > > > Actually for once this is a moral/social issue with a possible > technical solution. You can have an open network if the > infrastructure allows you to distinguish users. ---- placing absolutely no value on anonymity, that makes sense...I would not be in favor of some identification system just to use the Internet. Seems political to me. Craig