On Fri, 18 Jan 2008, Karl Larsen wrote: > Hi Jim, well I really have had nothing but trouble with F8. I can get zero > help from this list ... i believe the phrase "self-fulfilling prophecy" is what you're looking for here, karl. rday -- ======================================================================== Robert P. J. Day Linux Consulting, Training and Annoying Kernel Pedantry Waterloo, Ontario, CANADA Home page: http://crashcourse.ca Fedora Cookbook: http://crashcourse.ca/wiki/index.php/Fedora_Cookbook ========================================================================