On Fri, 2008-01-18 at 18:20 -0700, Karl Larsen wrote: > well I really have had nothing but trouble with F8. I can > get zero help from this list At this point, I say GO FUCK YOURSELF, THAT'S A LOAD OF BULLSHIT! You've had no end of help from this list, far more than others, far more than you deserve. The thing that's useless is YOU, not the help. -- [tim@bigblack ~]$ uname -ipr 2.6.23.12-52.fc7 i686 i386 Don't send private replies to my address, the mailbox is ignored. I read messages from the public lists.