On 16Jan2008 20:25, Michael Schwendt <mschwendt@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: | On 16/01/2008, Kam Leo wrote: | > Karl 's problem(s) with using multiple 3rd party repositories is not | > singular. | | It pretty much is. Karl is a newcomer, and trying to do a great deal. I too am in dependency hell. I have multiple 3rd party repositories active (why? not all have all packages). They conflict, as bemoaned repeated on this list and elsewhere. I know this, and mostly deal with it; sometimes I back some stuff out, disable a repository, reinstall using the "other". Fiddly and error prone, but not unexpected. However, I now have a box where I can't upgrade some perl packages. It seems one repository has split out a package from the core perl package, and disaster follows. Removing perl to clean up will probably try to remove half the system through dependency mania. | Many--if not all--of his "issues" are | self-inflicted. _All_ our issues are self inflicted. | Even if his age may be true, he's still a typical user | who messes with his installation and when seeking for help (or blaming | the developers) only tells half the story. Of course. We're all like that. He leaves out a little more than most, and regrettably often fails to recite what he _did_ do when he got something working. But everyone leaves out some level of detail and knowing what is relevant is learnt only through experience. [...] | > Apparently very little has changed since FC-3. | It would be much worse if RPM packages did not contain a list of dependencies. Yes, but one thing RPM seems to lack, and which is IMHO a great flaw, is a distinction between package requirements and package recommendations. My standard example is CUPS. I help maintain some co-located servers (yes RHEL, not Fedora). They have NO use for CUPS but the system-* config packages require it because they _can_ configure CUPS. If it were possible to mark some dependencies as suggested instead of required... -- Cameron Simpson <cs@xxxxxxxxxx> DoD#743 http://www.cskk.ezoshosting.com/cs/ Learn from others' mistakes, you won't live long enough to make them all yourself. - a saying they tell to all new skydivers
