On Tue, 2008-01-15 at 21:29 -0500, Gene Heskett wrote: > On Tuesday 15 January 2008, Msquared wrote: > >On Tue, Jan 15, 2008 at 09:37:16AM -0700, Robin Laing wrote: > >> 1. If you have a drive carrier, put the drive in it and see what > >> happens. As Msquared state, changing the orientation of the drive > >> worked for him. Maybe having the drive on it's side will work long > >> enough to get the data off. > > > >Actually, that's not what I meant. I meant that I had to manhandle the > >drive at power-on to get it to spin up. > > > That is called stiction, where the parked head and the disk platter have worn > so smooth that they stick together like the machinists "joe's blocks". If > you can get it started, it will likely be fine till the next powerdown, but > every powerdown makes it worse, until you have to use a rubber hammer to > strike one front corner of the drive sideways to break it loose. Eventually > it won't break loose. And may pull the head out of its suspension on the end > of the arm if hammered on too hard. Either way the drive is toast, pour a > glass and salute it for its long and un-troubled life till now. > > I would plan on replacing it before too many more powerdowns. > > >However, you are right: a different orientation may make a difference > >(I did once come across a drive that only worked on its side). Ah, if you have a drive that goes "knock knock knock knock" when powered up, what the heck is that? I'd like one last chance to get the stuff off of it, Ric -- ================================================ My father, Victor Moore (Vic) used to say: "There are two Great Sins in the world... ..the Sin of Ignorance, and the Sin of Stupidity. Only the former may be overcome." R.I.P. Dad. Linux user# 44256 Sign up at: http://counter.li.org/ http://www.sourceforge.net/projects/oar http://www.wayward4now.net <---down4now too ================================================